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CBreezy 03-26-2018 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2558851)
*nod* You're right, how many friends of your died while performing regional pilot duties?

Classy. Quite a few regional pilots have died flying in the US. That's a heartless and embarrassing argument. You're completely out of touch.

Han Solo 03-26-2018 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2558854)
Classy. Quite a few regional pilots have died flying in the US. That's a heartless and embarrassing argument. You're completely out of touch.

No, it's a truthful argument supported by facts you don't like.

Gooner 03-26-2018 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by poopplop (Post 2558806)
You tell me to take a breath while in the same paragraph complain about the financial difficulties you faced, which were created by the yes voters. Perhaps you should take your own advice.

I already said before that I joined the industry at a pretty good time. It's people like you that I think about when making my comments. I don't base my opinions of historical events only on how they affect myself.

But you’ve come here to lay blame on someone for the reason it’s not better. There was much sacrificed to get the industry where it is. Maybe, just maybe we haven’t taken kindly to your complete lack of appreciation of the hardships and complicated choices made in our past. But I will say, despite your “poopplop” attitude towards your brethren you at least learned a few lessons about scope. Always vote NO and you can never be blamed though right.

CBreezy 03-26-2018 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2558859)
No, it's a truthful argument supported by facts you don't like.

That's not an argument. It's using patriotism to try and win an argument. I refuted your bogus claim that officer pay is pretty much the same as regional FO pay and you come back with some classless argument about how my friends didn't die flying RJs rebuttal.

And you're right, not as many pilots die flying commercially but there have been PLENTY that have. In fact, I don't know if you remember it, but a regional turboprop crashed and Kool killed everyone on board not that long ago. And then there was that UPS crash on 2013. But you're right, their deaths are meaningless compared to your friends

Gooner 03-26-2018 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2558851)
Again, I'm not trying to diminish what regional pilots go through but so many people here treat you as some kind of protected class. Get over it. Everybody pays their dues in one way or another. You're not special, you're not a victim, nobody forced you to work for some crap regional just like nobody forced me to be in the military.

edited for clarification and grammar

Yet in a discussion about mainline pilots ruining the lives about said regional pilots you had to come in and say how you had it worse. Military is a different set of circumstances and sacrifices, no question, why bring finances into it. The poster you initially referenced said he was lucky, you walked in and said stop complaining and get over it. The post was aimed at another poster saying that if mainline hadn’t sold us all out we would all have mansions and unicorns so how dare us accept the paltry life we have now.

full of luv 03-26-2018 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Gooner (Post 2558873)
Yet in a discussion about mainline pilots ruining the lives about said regional pilots you had to come in and say how you had it worse. Military is a different set of circumstances and sacrifices, no question, why bring finances into it. The poster you initially referenced said he was lucky, you walked in and said stop complaining and get over it. The post was aimed at another poster saying that if mainline hadn’t sold us all out we would all have mansions and unicorns so how dare us accept the paltry life we have now.

And buy a NEW Caddy with each paycheck......like the 70's~~~~ and not one of those cheap ATS coupe Caddy's, a big one!

sailingfun 03-26-2018 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2558876)
And buy a NEW Caddy with each paycheck......like the 70's~~~~ and not one of those cheap ATS coupe Caddy's, a big one!

The cheapest KIA is a dramatically better car then a Caddy in the 70’s.

badflaps 03-26-2018 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2558876)
And buy a NEW Caddy with each paycheck......like the 70's~~~~ and not one of those cheap ATS coupe Caddy's, a big one!

727A pay in 1973 was $54,000. so, maybe a Pinto?:D

FMGEC 03-26-2018 06:13 AM

Curious question: How many airborne combat death have there been in the past 15 years?
How many have happened during training? (Military)

Now, tell me how many civilian operational pilot deaths there have been in the same time.
And also tell me how many civilian training deaths have occurred in the past 15 years.

Oh, and be sure you include the fatality ratio to hours flown.

As a CFI I couldn’t get life insurance because no one (outside of AOPA) would write a policy. But, my friends in the ANG has no problem getting coverage.
Don’t be surprised if Mike Rowe narrates a TV show called “The Deadliest Job” while following CFI’s around every day.

Han Solo 03-26-2018 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Gooner (Post 2558873)
Yet in a discussion about mainline pilots ruining the lives about said regional pilots...

Can you not see the absurdity of this statement?


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2558866)
That's not an argument. It's using patriotism to try and win an argument. I refuted your bogus claim that officer pay is pretty much the same as regional FO pay and you come back with some classless argument about how my friends didn't die flying RJs rebuttal.

And you're right, not as many pilots die flying commercially but there have been PLENTY that have. In fact, I don't know if you remember it, but a regional turboprop crashed and Kool killed everyone on board not that long ago. And then there was that UPS crash on 2013. But you're right, their deaths are meaningless compared to your friends

I did not say they were pretty much the same -- you did, I said "A LT in the military doesn't make a whole lot more". We could go into how a regional pilot can earn overtime and then figure out just how many hours a LT works to figure out an hourly rate but that wasn't the point of my post. I went on to say "Everybody pays their dues in one way or another" which is a fact often overlooked by somebody who only wants to compare W2s. The forum laments the plight of regional pilots pay but bring up a very real consequence of death in the military and all of a sudden I'm heartless and making an embarrassing argument? Really?


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