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KnotSoFast 04-06-2018 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2566318)
So my mom is S3 and I’m S2 and get delta one. Is it bad if she just takes my seat? She is 75

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It depends on whether you think it's bad to lose your pass privileges.

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Xray678 04-06-2018 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2566427)
I believe they run the AE first, then the MD. That can mean quite a difference in the way this plays out later this month.

I'm actually surprised at how junior the 88A is in MSP. If they run the AE first (and there are 320A/73NA vacancies on it) their options might be limited. If there are no super-premium A's on it, they're options will be limited.

Yes they run AEs first...I’m wondering what happens if there are no vacancies posted for 320a/73Na.....

Jaww 04-07-2018 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2566427)
I believe they run the AE first, then the MD. That can mean quite a difference in the way this plays out later this month.

I'm actually surprised at how junior the 88A is in MSP. If they run the AE first (and there are 320A/73NA vacancies on it) their options might be limited. If there are no super-premium A's on it, they're options will be limited.

I’m confused, can you dumb this down for a stupid pilot please? Thanks.

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-07-2018 04:49 AM

NYC 73N-B Conversion Delayed
 
Just found out some of my crash pad roomies (NYC 73 FO new hires) that were awarded conversions to other 73 domiciles from the Jan AE are getting their conversions delayed.

Currently two of them were supposed to convert to SEA in May, but when their PBS still showed NYC for their May bidding, they called Crew Resources and were told they had been punted to June for the time being.

How long can the company keep slipping them?

There has not been a lot of NYC 73's dropped to new hires in the last few months....manning issue?

sailingfun 04-07-2018 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2566755)
Just found out some of my crash pad roomies (NYC 73 FO new hires) that were awarded conversions to other 73 domiciles from the Jan AE are getting their conversions delayed.

Currently two of them were supposed to convert to SEA in May, but when their PBS still showed NYC for their May bidding, they called Crew Resources and were told they had been punted to June for the time being.

How long can the company keep slipping them?

There has not been a lot of NYC 73's dropped to new hires in the last few months....manning issue?

The company did not punt them. The projected training and conversion list is just that it’s a projection. Years ago they never put one out because if it changed they got a million calls and angry pilots.
It’s just a guide to give some idea of what to expect.
The conversion window is posted with each bid. Rules for order of conversion are in the contract.

Bucking Bar 04-07-2018 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2566491)
Yes they run AEs first...I’m wondering what happens if there are no vacancies posted for 320a/73Na.....

Sailingfun can correct us if this is mistaken, but the company can fill positions not posted, especially when there are displacements.

Same law applies: bid what you want, want what you bid.

It isn't nice to displace off of airplanes and then massage the numbers to make it most efficient for the company, but everyone drug "constructive engagement" out by the blast fence, beat the stuff out of it, and left it for dead. Then a paving crew failed to see the body there and it's buried under 30 feet of steel reinforced concrete and was only rumored to have ever existed.

From a labor relations perspective, we are Northwest Airlines without Doug Steenland's penchant for candor.

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-07-2018 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2566826)
The company did not punt them. The projected training and conversion list is just that it’s a projection. Years ago they never put one out because if it changed they got a million calls and angry pilots.
It’s just a guide to give some idea of what to expect.
The conversion window is posted with each bid. Rules for order of conversion are in the contract.

Copy Projection.

I know planned conversion window is posted when AE results are posted (normally 6 months window, can be 12 aka MOAB), but I "heard" that there were folks from the MOAB that did not convert inside the 12 month window.

All I found in the PWA about going over the conversion date was "should be trained ASAP".....so 1 month, 6.9 months?

Can the company punt folks indefinitely past the published 6 month conversion window?

DALMD88FO 04-07-2018 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2566841)
Copy Projection.

I know planned conversion window is posted when AE results are posted (normally 6 months window, can be 12 aka MOAB), but I "heard" that there were folks from the MOAB that did not convert inside the 12 month window.

All I found in the PWA about going over the conversion date was "should be trained ASAP".....so 1 month, 6.9 months?

Can the company punt folks indefinitely past the published 6 month conversion window?

Your conversion date can slide inside of the posted conversion window, however the conversion window does not slide. So if, at the end of the conversion window, you still haven't been trained then you stay at home as non qualified and get paid a pro rata portion of the ALV for each day at your new aircraft rate until you go to training.

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-07-2018 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2566857)
Your conversion date can slide inside of the posted conversion window, however the conversion window does not slide. So if, at the end of the conversion window, you still haven't been trained then you stay at home as non qualified and get paid a pro rata portion of the ALV for each day at your new aircraft rate until you go to training.

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Copy that.

Crash pad roomies are just moving from one 73 base to another 73 base.....can the company keep them in NYC longer than the end of the published 6 month conversion window?

sailingfun 04-07-2018 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2566860)
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Copy that.

Crash pad roomies are just moving from one 73 base to another 73 base.....can the company keep them in NYC longer than the end of the published 6 month conversion window?

The company must convert them inside the 210 day window unless they reach a agreement by mutual consent between the company and individual pilot to extend the time.
As far as pilots not converted in the MOAB conversion window it’s not yet over so that has not happened.


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