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acl65pilot 12-08-2009 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 723000)
I was thinking the MEC and its adminstrators.

I beleive it states in the contract that certain positions of our MEC administration and the administrators (not all) are paid FPL at the company's expense. I will dig for it.

iceman49 12-08-2009 07:21 AM

Thanks, it just seems like a conflict.

acl65pilot 12-08-2009 07:22 AM

Section 24J
 
2. The Company will pay a pilot for financial loss incurred while on authorized Association
business as if such pilot had remained on regular duty with the Company.
3. Payments made under Section 24 J. 2. plus a 35.75% benefit/salary related expense
override will be reimbursed to the Company by the Association.
Exception: The Association will not be liable for flight pay and benefit override
reimbursement to the Company for payments made to the following elected and
appointed officials of the Delta Master Executive Council when conducting Association
business related to the Company:
a. Chairman
b. Vice Chairman
c. Executive Administrator
d. Secretary
e. Treasurer
f. Association-appointed member of the Company’s Board of Directors
g. MEC members excluding LEC non-voting Secretary/Treasurers
h. Central Air Safety Chairman
i. Scheduling Committee Chairman
j. Retirement & Insurance Committee Chairman
k. Hotel Committee Chairman
l. DPAC Committee Chairman
m. Negotiating Committee (up to three members)
n. Crew Rest Optimization Team members (as provided in Section 16 C. 3. a.)
o. Pilot members of the Flight Operations Quality Assurance (FOQA) monitoring
team while participating on the FOQA monitoring team.
p. Pilot members of the IFOT while participating in IFOT duties.
q. Pilot members of the ERC while performing ASAP duties.
4. The Company and Association will agree upon a method and procedure for compliance
with Section 24 J. 2. and 3.
5. The Association will reimburse the Company for the amount of premium pay that results
from an open time assignment (i.e., green slip, green slip with conflict, inverse
assignment, inverse assignment with conflict) that covered:
a. a rotation that a pilot dropped under Section 24 J. 1.,
b. one other rotation that originated on the same day as a rotation that a pilot dropped
under Section 24 J. 1., or
c. one rotation that originated and released during each period of consecutive reserve
on-call days that a pilot dropped under Section 24 J. 1.
Note: Section 24 J. 5. will not apply to ALPA FOQA monitoring team members, ALPA
ERC members or ALPA IFOT members.

acl65pilot 12-08-2009 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 723006)
Thanks, it just seems like a conflict.

I do not know if I agree with that. They pay for it, it is in the contract and they cannot take that away. In effect no matter what is going on having it spelled out in the contract means that we have a leadership team.

iceman49 12-08-2009 07:26 AM

Seems like it should be more than an arms length transaction between the company and the union.

Reroute 12-08-2009 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 723006)
Thanks, it just seems like a conflict.

No more of a conflict than the fact that Delta pilots are paid by Delta IAW the PWA. Section 24 J of the Delta PWA saves DALPA a great deal of money, money we'll need. It's a benefit that Delta pilots negotiated ,it is not up to the discretion of management to absorb those expenses, they are require to.

iaflyer 12-08-2009 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 723010)
Seems like it should be more than an arms length transaction between the company and the union.

I agree with ACL - the company doesn't dictate who gets the money and the positions are elected. What you're implying is that the company could somehow bend the MEC with the money they are paying. I can't see that occuring as it's organized.

iceman49 12-08-2009 08:00 AM

So what was given up to get it, since that seems to be a recurring theme, not implying anything.

capncrunch 12-08-2009 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 723015)
I agree with ACL - the company doesn't dictate who gets the money and the positions are elected. What you're implying is that the company could somehow bend the MEC with the money they are paying. I can't see that occuring as it's organized.

The way around that is for a representative to have a consulting business on the side in which an "anonymous" company deposits money into and walla, the company gets the side letters it wants. Meanwhile, the rest of us scratch our heads and try to understand why said representative did what they did.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

RockyBoy 12-08-2009 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 723025)
The way around that is for Lee Moak to have a consulting business on the side in which an "anonymous" company deposits money into and walla, the company gets the side letters it wants. Meanwhile, the rest of us scratch our heads an try to understand why Lee Moak does things that he does.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

But that would still be seperate from the FPL system. They can't infuluence the current MEC members with the FPL system is the point. They may have other ways of influcnecing them, but the FPL system is not one of them.


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