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Old 09-01-2019 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I can sort of guess what's going on with the company with 350s.

Our friends already fly 748s, 380s, 346s, 350s, 788s and what have you for us.

We dont need big 350s, we would like a small fleet of 767 sized jets. That's what would make us happy.

We dont do big and long. We do short and small. We love it when our friends service our customers with their big and longs, we will watch that all day and proclaim it's good for the relationship.

Dont know why anyone would cheer that on?
Its not short and small its sleek and sexy. Motion of the ocean!
Old 09-02-2019 | 05:11 AM
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Maybe. But do you really think if the company was not happy with the 350 they would be upfront about it?

Maybe the 350 rocks, maybe it sucks, but either way I doubt the company will claim anything other than they are pleased with their decision to purchase them.

But the skeptic in me asks, " If they do rock why aren't we getting more?"

Yeah, the fictional China hub never materialized, but if the 350 does rock we could easily find other routes for it. After all we are a global airline.

I don't think we are happy with the 350, but who knows.

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Last year, at in command, they definitely seemed luke warm about the 350. I got the impression they weren’t going to be exercising the options on the remaining ten airframes until they can get more performance / range out of them (or maybe get the -1000s).

However, they were VERY excited about the 330 NEO. Multiple presenters called it a “game changer.”
Old 09-02-2019 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MJP27
Last year, at in command, they definitely seemed luke warm about the 350. I got the impression they weren’t going to be exercising the options on the remaining ten airframes until they can get more performance / range out of them (or maybe get the -1000s).

However, they were VERY excited about the 330 NEO. Multiple presenters called it a “game changer.”
I've been at numerous instructor, standards meetings and been involved in the command school. It's mostly rah rah and propaganda. 90%. Sound bites for the masses.
Old 09-02-2019 | 07:17 AM
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Seriously? The discussion is about the 350. You throw this giant turd in the punchbowl and now you are playing coy. Apparently, you were at some meeting.
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Old 09-02-2019 | 08:03 AM
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From what I’ve heard from non-pilots in the company, it’s not that the 350 is bad, it’s just that it doesn’t really fit well in our type of operation. But the same folks have heaps of praise for what the 330NEO is capable of. TIFWIW.
Old 09-02-2019 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
I've been at numerous instructor, standards meetings and been involved in the command school. It's mostly rah rah and propaganda. 90%. Sound bites for the masses.
That's because it hasn't arrived yet. The new girl is always pretty until you see her.
Old 09-02-2019 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
From what I’ve heard from non-pilots in the company, it’s not that the 350 is bad, it’s just that it doesn’t really fit well in our type of operation. But the same folks have heaps of praise for what the 330NEO is capable of. TIFWIW.
I think that shows what we need is inverse to the rest of the world.

350 is approaching 1000 orders, 330N has 230ish, we want the 330N and the 350 not so much... evidently.

But hey we arent like most world airlines with one hub.

From reading the interweb if you need that big performance the 350 is evidently the best thing going.
Old 09-02-2019 | 09:44 AM
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“Doesn’t fit well in our network.” They say the same thing when asked why we only have 20ish 777’s.

What exactly is it about our network?
Old 09-02-2019 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
“Doesn’t fit well in our network.” They say the same thing when asked why we only have 20ish 777’s.

What exactly is it about our network?
Our network is a 7 airport hub to 6 big destinations and like 15 small ones.

We service the destinations by a wide variety of aircraft to include 748s, 380s, 346s, 345s, 333s, 332s, 773s, 772s, 350s, 787s...

and then whatever we fly on the routes.
Old 09-02-2019 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Our network is a 7 airport hub airline to 6 big destinations and like 15 small ones.

We service the destinations by a wide variety of aircraft to include 748s, 380s, 346s, 345s, 333s, 332s, 773s, 772s, 350s, 787s...

and then whatever we fly on the routes.
If true. Probably why we will never see 773s and 350-1000s. Even used

Supposedly after the Gulf Air 763s Delta has never done the used widebodies routine, I believe. Could be wrong.

Not sure if NWA ever did it either but I dont think they did.
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