Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-15-2019 | 07:58 PM
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And that "analysis" is outdated and irrelevant now. That being the initial plan is speculative but possible, who knows and who cares because its a different world now. Their timing was amazingly, unprecedentedly and almost impossibly lucky for them. Right when they should have been feeling the squeeze the most, the tables turned and all of their competition was yielding marketshare to anyone and everyone as fast as planes could be flown to the deserts and pilots could be trained to facilitate furloughs and downgrades and that lasted for years, all the while they had a CASM advantage that wasn't even in the same universe.
Now, however, there is no way DOT/J would allow a merger with a legacy (other than maybe SWA under a partial but significant divesture) and they know it. That ship sailed years ago. At this point they very well may merge, but the biggest would likely be AK and probably smaller (F9, NK, etc).
The EU Mint offensive is not to be taken lightly. Its not just a nibble on marketshare with a funky fresh super saver coach product; its a full on assault at a very small fraction of prevailing fares to the most critical premium revenue sources available. I can't yet tell how serious legacy management teams are taking this. Simply adding some flights in anticipation will do nothing when they fully intend to permanently shatter fares on those key premium markets by 50-80%. If anything, simply adding capacity makes legacies more vulnerable unless they intend to win that war of attrition, which they could very easilly, but they may not have the stomach to self reduce yields more in the short term to preserve them in the long term.
Numerous puzzle pieces going into place in BOS and to a lesser extent NYC are a very encouraging sign but its too early to tell what the long term counter offensive will be.
Now, however, there is no way DOT/J would allow a merger with a legacy (other than maybe SWA under a partial but significant divesture) and they know it. That ship sailed years ago. At this point they very well may merge, but the biggest would likely be AK and probably smaller (F9, NK, etc).
The EU Mint offensive is not to be taken lightly. Its not just a nibble on marketshare with a funky fresh super saver coach product; its a full on assault at a very small fraction of prevailing fares to the most critical premium revenue sources available. I can't yet tell how serious legacy management teams are taking this. Simply adding some flights in anticipation will do nothing when they fully intend to permanently shatter fares on those key premium markets by 50-80%. If anything, simply adding capacity makes legacies more vulnerable unless they intend to win that war of attrition, which they could very easilly, but they may not have the stomach to self reduce yields more in the short term to preserve them in the long term.
Numerous puzzle pieces going into place in BOS and to a lesser extent NYC are a very encouraging sign but its too early to tell what the long term counter offensive will be.
08-16-2019 | 05:00 AM
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JB is so much younger than all the legacies that without significant fences ala republic/nwa it would destroy expected career progression for legacy guys.
08-16-2019 | 06:13 AM
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[QUOTE=forgot to bid;2869039]I would love to see it taxi by in Atlanta. Itd be like seeing a steam engine on a railroad track.
Union Pacific just restored a 'Big Boy' locomotive and had it on tour all spring and summer. I was lucky to see it in person. The most powerful steam locomotive ever produced... awesome.
https://youtu.be/qp3W-M5q4nk
Union Pacific just restored a 'Big Boy' locomotive and had it on tour all spring and summer. I was lucky to see it in person. The most powerful steam locomotive ever produced... awesome.
https://youtu.be/qp3W-M5q4nk
08-16-2019 | 06:22 AM
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And that "analysis" is outdated and irrelevant now. That being the initial plan is speculative but possible, who knows and who cares because its a different world now. Their timing was amazingly, unprecedentedly and almost impossibly lucky for them. Right when they should have been feeling the squeeze the most, the tables turned and all of their competition was yielding marketshare to anyone and everyone as fast as planes could be flown to the deserts and pilots could be trained to facilitate furloughs and downgrades and that lasted for years, all the while they had a CASM advantage that wasn't even in the same universe.
Now, however, there is no way DOT/J would allow a merger with a legacy (other than maybe SWA under a partial but significant divesture) and they know it. That ship sailed years ago. At this point they very well may merge, but the biggest would likely be AK and probably smaller (F9, NK, etc).
The EU Mint offensive is not to be taken lightly. Its not just a nibble on marketshare with a funky fresh super saver coach product; its a full on assault at a very small fraction of prevailing fares to the most critical premium revenue sources available. I can't yet tell how serious legacy management teams are taking this. Simply adding some flights in anticipation will do nothing when they fully intend to permanently shatter fares on those key premium markets by 50-80%. If anything, simply adding capacity makes legacies more vulnerable unless they intend to win that war of attrition, which they could very easilly, but they may not have the stomach to self reduce yields more in the short term to preserve them in the long term.
Numerous puzzle pieces going into place in BOS and to a lesser extent NYC are a very encouraging sign but its too early to tell what the long term counter offensive will be.
Now, however, there is no way DOT/J would allow a merger with a legacy (other than maybe SWA under a partial but significant divesture) and they know it. That ship sailed years ago. At this point they very well may merge, but the biggest would likely be AK and probably smaller (F9, NK, etc).
The EU Mint offensive is not to be taken lightly. Its not just a nibble on marketshare with a funky fresh super saver coach product; its a full on assault at a very small fraction of prevailing fares to the most critical premium revenue sources available. I can't yet tell how serious legacy management teams are taking this. Simply adding some flights in anticipation will do nothing when they fully intend to permanently shatter fares on those key premium markets by 50-80%. If anything, simply adding capacity makes legacies more vulnerable unless they intend to win that war of attrition, which they could very easilly, but they may not have the stomach to self reduce yields more in the short term to preserve them in the long term.
Numerous puzzle pieces going into place in BOS and to a lesser extent NYC are a very encouraging sign but its too early to tell what the long term counter offensive will be.
The passengers were mostly of the "wow, I've never flown before!" variety. The crew were outstanding by the way, doing a great job keeping us informed when there were some serious weather-related delays.
Most importantly, as Delta learned from Song--an otherwise great product--single class service ain't going to cut it with transoceanic or high-yield passengers. Yes, Mint is more than the basic JetBlue experience. I haven't seen anything to suggest that single-aisle service, with single-class "plus" experience in Mint will be the yield-trashing reality you suggest, compared to Delta One, and all the similar offerings from the other legacies.
However I do agree that we need to nip that in the bud. Thankfully, UNlike JetBlue's early days, we have a very good management team that can do that now.
08-16-2019 | 07:52 AM
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With this crazy summer schedule and staffing on some fleets, anyone know how the fatigue and sick calls have stacked up from previous years? Just curious, everyone I fly with seems burnt out more so this summer.
08-16-2019 | 08:47 AM
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Fatigue calls doubled since last year. Not sure about sick calls.
08-16-2019 | 08:50 AM
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Read the MEC Chairmans letter sent out yesterday to the pilots. There is a section titled “Operations Tempo”. It is spot on 100 percent what I have seen/experienced this summer. The FAA should take a look at it....maybe our new Administrator should get a copy since he is going to be so “Safety” oriented since the 737 Max debacle. I heard him say it a hundred times during his confirmation. Not to worry though.....”Schedule with Safety”. I saw that Alpa sticker somewhere years ago. What a farce!
08-16-2019 | 08:52 AM
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Read the MEC Chairmans letter sent out yesterday to the pilots. There is a section titled “Operations Tempo”. It is spot on 100 percent what I have seen/experienced this summer. The FAA should take a look at it....maybe our new Administrator should get a copy since he is going to be so “Safety” oriented since the 737 Max debacle. I heard him say it a hundred times during his confirmation. Not to worry though.....”Schedule with Safety”. I saw that Alpa sticker somewhere years ago. What a farce!
08-16-2019 | 08:54 AM
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08-16-2019 | 12:20 PM
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So how does a 3-day GS on RES result in 4 PB days -- not that I'm complaining.
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