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Old 08-14-2020, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right View Post
There was much they could do along the way yet they rode the train.

they are not tied to the airline like we are. They can move on very easily and most likely will find a soft landing if the worse happens to the airline.

I don't shed a tear for them. Not one.

We'll see soon enough how they plan to gut the PWA forthwith. Lucky I VEOP on 1 Sept. You'll have to deal with the fallout and the absolute decimation of your QOL.
I didn’t say you shed a tear for them. I don’t either. You’re correct they don’t have the same tie we have to the company, although I would like to think their success or failure would affect their future job prospects. Easy to not sweat when you have made millions though.

My point was more along the lines of your contending the “China flu” was their wet dream because they can come after our contract. I doubt that is such a wonderful situation for them.

Enjoy your retirement. I’m sure I’ll manage through the decimation of my QOL. It’s all down hill from here in the short term. Paid to stay home beats either option the UNAs are facing come 10/1 but I’m hoping to reduce the uncertainty in life by returning to a flying category.
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:40 PM
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Lots of HVC's figured out how to work from home. City folks are moving to the burbs. Might change the industry for some time.
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Old 08-14-2020, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
I didn’t say you shed a tear for them. I don’t either. You’re correct they don’t have the same tie we have to the company, although I would like to think their success or failure would affect their future job prospects. Easy to not sweat when you have made millions though.

My point was more along the lines of your contending the “China flu” was their wet dream because they can come after our contract. I doubt that is such a wonderful situation for them.

Enjoy your retirement. I’m sure I’ll manage through the decimation of my QOL. It’s all down hill from here in the short term. Paid to stay home beats either option the UNAs are facing come 10/1 but I’m hoping to reduce the uncertainty in life by returning to a flying category.
One of my trigger points in my decision matrix to retire was leaving a seat for a UNA. I sure hope that happens.

Besides, I've been beat up enough in this industry. I've been furloughed twice, before I came to rest at DAL. This is an outstanding pilot group. That list of VEOP takers is a who's who of just flat out, quite simply, outstanding people and fantastic leaders and aviators. I've flown with many of them, proud to have been able to share the flight deck with some giants. To me, our legacy at DAL is just that - the pilots truly make the difference at our airline. I can say that because I was at another major before I hired on here.

Yes, your QOL is gonna take a hit, management is coming for it, they smell the blood in the water. Fight them at any point you can. They will learn the hard way, again, that it's the Delta Pilots that are the Delta difference.
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right View Post
One of my trigger points in my decision matrix to retire was leaving a seat for a UNA. I sure hope that happens.

Besides, I've been beat up enough in this industry. I've been furloughed twice, before I came to rest at DAL. This is an outstanding pilot group. That list of VEOP takers is a who's who of just flat out, quite simply, outstanding people and fantastic leaders and aviators. I've flown with many of them, proud to have been able to share the flight deck with some giants. To me, our legacy at DAL is just that - the pilots truly make the difference at our airline. I can say that because I was at another major before I hired on here.

Yes, your QOL is gonna take a hit, management is coming for it, they smell the blood in the water. Fight them at any point you can. They will learn the hard way, again, that it's the Delta Pilots that are the Delta difference.
Thanks for your time and experience, and the wisdom you’ve undoubtedly shared. Thank you as well for the consideration for those of us behind you. Whatever happens will happen and hopefully we all find our way out of the chop.
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Old 08-14-2020, 08:49 PM
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You're a real class act.
thats a fairly rich comment for one of the most prolific insult throwers in the forum
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Old 08-15-2020, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
thats a fairly rich comment for one of the most prolific insult throwers in the forum
Takes one to know one I guess...
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right View Post
You'll have to deal with the fallout and the absolute decimation of your QOL.
Our QOL is only going to be reduced by a tenth?? That doesn’t seem right...
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Old 08-15-2020, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by breadcream View Post
our qol is only going to be reduced by a tenth?? That doesn’t seem right...

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Old 08-15-2020, 07:26 AM
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Nothing changes unless we vote for it to change. Change my mind. Pay, QOL, etc. All of it is contractual.
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Old 08-15-2020, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf View Post
Nothing changes unless we vote for it to change. Change my mind. Pay, QOL, etc. All of it is contractual.
Things change all the time, there’s a lot of wiggle in the contractual language. Contract language won’t change without a vote, but you only have to look back at what has been changed for the better (short call period) or worse (DH boarding, safety vests?) without a vote in just the last couple years.
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