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BlueSkies 01-27-2021 04:57 AM

Reserve question here - how does pay work on a carry-over rotation? I had a CA tell me to be careful b/c the last carry-over trip he did on res all of the pay/credit went towards the later month.

I have 2 days of availability at the end of Jan and I know they are going to fly me. Currently I'm just below being 'full'. I also have 6 more days after that going into Feb. Based on what this CA told me I'm worried if they give me a 4 day carry-over all of the pay/credit will just go towards my Feb res guarantee and I will have worked to within .5 hrs of guarantee in Jan for 'nothing'. Is this crazy? I couldn't find anything about carry-over/asterisk rotations on res in the PWA. Thanks.

iaflyer 01-27-2021 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by BlueSkies (Post 3186968)
Reserve question here - how does pay work on a carry-over rotation? I had a CA tell me to be careful b/c the last carry-over trip he did on res all of the pay/credit went towards the later month.

I have 2 days of availability at the end of Jan and I know they are going to fly me. Currently I'm just below being 'full'. I also have 6 more days after that going into Feb. Based on what this CA told me I'm worried if they give me a 4 day carry-over all of the pay/credit will just go towards my Feb res guarantee and I will have worked to within .5 hrs of guarantee in Jan for 'nothing'. Is this crazy? I couldn't find anything about carry-over/asterisk rotations on res in the PWA. Thanks.

He's pretty much right. All the flying in the Feb bid period (which starts 31Jan, btw) and credit from the rotation will be in credited in Feb. The only pay you get in Jan from the trip is the flying done in Jan.

You could move an X day to 31Jan to avoid that.

FangsF15 01-27-2021 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by BlueSkies (Post 3186968)
Reserve question here - how does pay work on a carry-over rotation? I had a CA tell me to be careful b/c the last carry-over trip he did on res all of the pay/credit went towards the later month.

I have 2 days of availability at the end of Jan and I know they are going to fly me. Currently I'm just below being 'full'. I also have 6 more days after that going into Feb. Based on what this CA told me I'm worried if they give me a 4 day carry-over all of the pay/credit will just go towards my Feb res guarantee and I will have worked to within .5 hrs of guarantee in Jan for 'nothing'. Is this crazy? I couldn't find anything about carry-over/asterisk rotations on res in the PWA. Thanks.

You get paid actual block, plus minutes under, in the month you fly it. All credit, as in the difference in scheduled block and the ADG, gets paid on the last day of the trip. The way you worded it, it makes it sound like the Capt told you the entire trip pays in the second month. Not true.

If you are a single minute under Res guarantee, they can fly you to ALV +15, and fly you into x days (or Reg days off) in the next month. Ask me how I know...

*edit* iaflywr types faster, but is right too. Though, you have to move an x day 72 hours prior I think. You might not be able to square that corner.

BlueSkies 01-27-2021 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 3186979)
He's pretty much right. All the flying in the Feb bid period (which starts 31Jan, btw) and credit from the rotation will be in credited in Feb. The only pay you get in Jan from the trip is the flying done in Jan.

You could move an X day to 31Jan to avoid that.

Thanks for the info. I will probably just YS a 2 day since that will keep me in the Jan bid period. I might try the X day move or a PD as well.


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3186983)
You get paid actual block, plus minutes under, in the month you fly it. All credit, as in the difference in scheduled block and the ADG, gets paid on the last day of the trip. The way you worded it, it makes it sound like the Capt told you the entire trip pays in the second month. Not true.

If you are a single minute under Res guarantee, they can fly you to ALV +15, and fly you into x days (or Reg days off) in the next month. Ask me how I know...

*edit* iaflywr types faster, but is right too. Though, you have to move an x day 72 hours prior I think. You might not be able to square that corner.

Now that you mention it, that is what he said about the credit, I just mis-remembered it.

Thanks guys, the APC knowledge base is awesome! :)

UGBSM 01-27-2021 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3177593)
Should be two hours of pay for you. Also easy money :-)

And the other person that actually got the trip should get an additional two hours of pay also, right? LOA 20-4 says EVERY pilot in the batch will receive remediation of two hours pay/no credit.

So if you were the pilot that actually got the ARCOS trip, how do you know if someone else on the batch was contacted when they shouldn't have been? I don't know if somebody else's phone rang or not.

Abouttime2fish 01-30-2021 08:51 AM

When do they start putting training on LCA trips if it’s going to happen? What about on the 737.....?

Gspeed 01-30-2021 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish (Post 3188477)
When do they start putting training on LCA trips if it’s going to happen? What about on the 737.....?

Usually right after the last flight departs to commute home.

CBreezy 01-30-2021 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish (Post 3188477)
When do they start putting training on LCA trips if it’s going to happen? What about on the 737.....?

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Usually around 2-4 days prior. They may not release you until show time .

Abouttime2fish 01-30-2021 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3188613)
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Usually around 2-4 days prior. They may not release you until show time .

Thx. Had a Jan to feb trip that was showing training for 3 weeks and got called night prior to release..... silly me thinking those things might continue! But I was not assigned my OE until during my 44x so I should not be surprised.

AirBob 02-02-2021 09:04 AM

Well. In the interest of preserving a great line of discussions and info sharing such as this thread, should we keep it going to 30000 and beyond, or start a new thread to succeed it? Thinking about calling it

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? Version 2.0

The one immediate benefit would be shorter load times for some. Any previous content of course would be searchable via the search box. The question is: would any long time contributor be interested in the honors of starting a new Delta G&L or simply prefer to keep the current thread? Thanks to all the contributors to Delta's L&G as I am a beneficiary of your combined knowledge and know-how.


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