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Crown 07-09-2021 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3261090)
I believe that KEF can now be used for TOE. The entire oceanic procedures have been dumbed down so much that I wouldn't be surprised to see San Juan be used for TOE.

talking to Cenamer should be it's own training!

RunFast 07-09-2021 02:28 PM

I have an issue w my time card. Had a trip dropped for lack of currency but it’s not showing to be paid out. Who at DALPA should I contact?

DWC CAP10 USAF 07-09-2021 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by RunFast (Post 3261334)
I have an issue w my time card. Had a trip dropped for lack of currency but it’s not showing to be paid out. Who at DALPA should I contact?

Please attempt to talk to crew Scheds first…they are the fastest way of getting time card corrected.

If no joy there, then use the the ACE for Unions app to submit to ALPA: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ace-fo...s/id1555906324

OOfff 07-09-2021 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3261090)
I believe that KEF can now be used for TOE. The entire oceanic procedures have been dumbed down so much that I wouldn't be surprised to see San Juan be used for TOE.

per the bulletin and airway manual, KEF/PDL cannot be used for establishing the Atlantic qual, only to extend an existing one.

OOfff 07-09-2021 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by ODB2 (Post 3261051)
Does anyone know if they conduct TOE on 7ER KEF flights? 2 pilot ops, not sure if rest break is part of the required training.

nope. It’s in the airway manual table for reference

RunFast 07-09-2021 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3261336)
Please attempt to talk to crew Scheds first…they are the fastest way of getting time card corrected.

If no joy there, then use the the ACE for Unions app to submit to ALPA: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ace-fo...s/id1555906324

Thank you, will do!

JamesBond 07-09-2021 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3261345)
per the bulletin and airway manual, KEF/PDL cannot be used for establishing the Atlantic qual, only to extend an existing one.

Well... that's old gouge. Annnnnnnd... only 2 legs on a TOE are needed as well regardless of international experience.

Not sure if official yet, so tifwiw.

OOfff 07-09-2021 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3261372)
Well... that's old gouge. Annnnnnnd... only 2 legs on a TOE are needed as well regardless of international experience.

Not sure if official yet, so tifwiw.

well, that bulletin is dated 18jun and is the most recent official word, so under current practice, that’s the case. If it’s not official, it’s not current practice wrt OE requirements.

sailingfun 07-10-2021 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by RunFast (Post 3261334)
I have an issue w my time card. Had a trip dropped for lack of currency but it’s not showing to be paid out. Who at DALPA should I contact?

Do nothing until the trip shows closed on the time card. Normally when they close it is when the pay is added back. If not contact CS. If no satisfaction call or email contract admin at the union.

OOfff 07-11-2021 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3262053)
By adding the last post.


And I really didn't care to argue with you as you are obviously the smartest man in the room. I trust my information source. It might not be currently in effect, but I do believe it is on the front burner and it is coming very soon.

that totally could be true. Lots of things are in the works. But for someone asking about current policy, calling current manual guidance “old gouge” is a disservice to our peers.


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