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Old 11-07-2021 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
It is 5 hours. Miraculously they managed to make the max sit time 4:59!!
I've had success asking for a hotel room just under 5 hours. Contractually they don't have to but I've had success. Last time was 4:40 scheduled but we got in early for a 4:56 turn.
Old 11-07-2021 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I've had success asking for a hotel room just under 5 hours. Contractually they don't have to but I've had success. Last time was 4:40 scheduled but we got in early for a 4:56 turn.

Same, especially for any kind of prolonged mx delay. MX says likely a 4 hours fix...ya, I've seen this play out before, we want a room. We got them no questions asked. Fix took 6 hours...
Old 11-07-2021 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
It is 5 hours. Miraculously they managed to make the max sit time 4:59!!
Technically it’s > 5 hours, so 5:01

PWA 5.E.1.d "...scheduled for block-in to block-out of more than five hours“
Old 11-07-2021 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I've had success asking for a hotel room just under 5 hours. Contractually they don't have to but I've had success. Last time was 4:40 scheduled but we got in early for a 4:56 turn.
Had a rotation about two weeks ago with a just under 5 hour sit in MIA. We asked for hotel…told no. Asked duty pilot, he told us to go hang in the FA lounge.
Old 11-07-2021 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Had a rotation about two weeks ago with a just under 5 hour sit in MIA. We asked for hotel…told no. Asked duty pilot, he told us to go hang in the FA lounge.
Huh....the nice part is that you already had the duty pilot on the phone which saves that second call when you bang in fatigued. 😁
Old 11-07-2021 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Huh....the nice part is that you already had the duty pilot on the phone which saves that second call when you bang in fatigued. 😁
Lol right. It's all in how you sell it!
Old 11-07-2021 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Huh....the nice part is that you already had the duty pilot on the phone which saves that second call when you bang in fatigued. 😁
Bingo. I haven’t understood why the company is fighting us on things like DH and crew meals and hotels. If we are fed, watered and rested there is a lot we can do to help when the operation goes bad.
Old 11-07-2021 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Bingo. I haven’t understood why the company is fighting us on things like DH and crew meals and hotels. If we are fed, watered and rested there is a lot we can do to help when the operation goes bad.
They fight us on the low/no cost items, so they have something to give away in negotiations. "OK ALPA, you drive a hard bargain. You get crew meals, DH improvents and more say in hotel selection. We'll just reshuffle the scope clause to even things out".
Old 11-08-2021 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
They fight us on the low/no cost items, so they have something to give away in negotiations. "OK ALPA, you drive a hard bargain. You get crew meals, DH improvents and more say in hotel selection. We'll just reshuffle the scope clause to even things out".
What if the negotiators called out fatigued?
Old 11-08-2021 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
They fight us on the low/no cost items, so they have something to give away in negotiations. "OK ALPA, you drive a hard bargain. You get crew meals, DH improvents and more say in hotel selection. We'll just reshuffle the scope clause to even things out".
In 1849, French writer Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr wrote “plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose “ – the more things change, the more they stay the same… Turbulent changes do not affect reality on a deeper level other than to cement the status quo.

Get use to it. Same thing they're were doing 40 years ago. Hold the line.
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