Hold on a sec. I have no entitlement mentality wrt the pay protection thing. None at all. I am just stating that I think it is a farce in the way it is written. For Example, let's say that one of the 765 FOs that is getting kicked out of ATL is a line holder, but in order to get his pay protection he has to go be reserve on the 7er in LAX... This is a good thing? Really?

Sorry, I guess I am just in a flamethrowing mood this morning, but believe me there is no entitlement mentality in this thing. I just hope that we didn't expend any REAL negotiating capital to achieve it.

If the person who is junior to you is on equipment equal to or better than what you were displaced off of, then yes, you'll lose pay protection. If the junior guy is on equipment better than you are on but less than what you had, you get the difference of what they have and you had, added to your paycheck.

For instance, if the difference between what they have and you had is $5.00 an hour. Then your current pay rate on the lower equipment will be increased $5.00.

I'm still kind of confused as to why the Old South didn't/doesn't have longer recall rights. It would seem like both the company and the pilots would want something longer than 180 days.

Feel free to flame away - that's what we do! Sorry, but this DID cost the company money, meaning it DID cost us negotiating capital, meaning I got less of something somewhere, because somebody got pay protected. THAT'S my beef. Just like an overly generous commuting policy, or overly generous sick leave that encourages abuse, or overly generous LTD benefits that went on forever (in the old days)! All of that stuff costs non-commuting honest pilots a lot of money in the long run.

If you didn't get the word, today is "it's all about me Saturday". ;)

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Japan/US signs landmark OpenSkies deal

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Japan and US has concluded an open skies deal, followed by the latest talk this week, which ended on Friday 10DEC09. The highlights of the deal includes (based on various Japanese media reports) :

*Unlimited flights, destinations for carriers from both sides between US and Japan, except Tokyo market.
*Unlimited operating carriers from each side
*ATI (anti-trust immunity) inclusion
*Up to 4 Daily service between US and Tokyo Haneda for US carriers
*US carriers’ slot shares at Tokyo Narita to lower from 28% to 25% once the airport slots increases from March 2010, equivalent of 8 weekly round-trip reduction
*Due to slots issues at Tokyo Haneda and Narita, slots issuance for these two airports remains to be Government controlled
*Removal of restrictions of 5th freedom rights beyond each country (but approval from 3rd country remains required)
Both sides extended the talk by one extra day on Friday 10DEC09 due to an impasse regarding slots at both Tokyo airports, which has been an major setback for both parties for the past 4 talks in 2009. This week is the 5th talks for the year.
There will be approximately 40 International services at Tokyo Haneda starting Oct 2010, which half of these flights are operated by foreign carriers. Of these flights, 20 flights to be operated by Japanese carriers, 2 each for Korea, Singapore and Germany; 1 each for 6 countries including Canada and France. However, all flights can only operate between 2200 (or 2300) and 0700 LT, with exceptions to selected destinations in Asia, which allows daytime operation.
Anti-trust immunity is possible for the first time between the two countries. ANA has been studying intensified cooperation with Star Alliance partners UNITED and Continental which includes ATI. Application could be issued as early as this month and in effect from Oct 2010 if approved. On the other hand, the near-collapsing JAL is still undecided on its future alliance/partnership as both DELTA and American expressed interest to create/deepen the partnership, also includes ATI. It allows multiple carriers to coordinate their schedules, pricing, and marketing. In short, multiple carriers operating as a single airline if approved.
It should also be noted that this is the First full-scale open-skies deal for Japan with another foreign country. It has been pushing for a “smaller-scale” deal with other countries in the past due to slots issue at Tokyo airports.

Sounds like a LHR kind of situation, Open Skies with no slots is not Open Skies.

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My new favorite. :D

Wow. Looks like a RAW deal. Great.

Where are you thinking about going? And your buddies on the Whale? just curious as to you thought process in these times of change.