Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 725963)

I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 725963)

No, you've got to grow up. Name another job where you make a six figure income and when promotions (or demotions) come, you aren't expected to often have to move all over the country. Name another job where you can make a six figure income in Atlanta, GA, while living full time in Madison Wisconsin, all the time whining that your medical care in Madison Wisconsin isn't as good as it used to be, now that your company is headquartered in Georgia.

And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 725963)

No, you've got to grow up. Name another job where you make a six figure income and when promotions (or demotions) come, you aren't expected to often have to move all over the country. Name another job where you can make a six figure income in Atlanta, GA, while living full time in Madison Wisconsin, all the time whining that your medical care in Madison Wisconsin isn't as good as it used to be, now that your company is headquartered in Georgia.

And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.

Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 725949)

This is definitely NOT the old NW Policy. It is the current DAL-S Call in Stupid or Call in Sick policy.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 725832)

Feel free to flame away - that's what we do! Sorry, but this DID cost the company money, meaning it DID cost us negotiating capital, meaning I got less of something somewhere, because somebody got pay protected. THAT'S my beef. Just like an overly generous commuting policy, or overly generous sick leave that encourages abuse, or overly generous LTD benefits that went on forever (in the old days)! All of that stuff costs non-commuting honest pilots a lot of money in the long run.

If you didn't get the word, today is "it's all about me Saturday". ;)

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 725971)

This isn't even worth a response.... perfectly illustrates how far your head is in the sand, even in regards to former South guys. (re: DFW...)

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 725974)

The statement in the latest FOM is the same one we have always had for the south concerning commutes. It is not however a flight ops policy. It is a contractual right that is written in the contract.

The commuter policy at NWA while better then Delta's was a flight ops policy and could be revoked on any whim of management. The fact it was not contractual and not in the NWA contract is one reason we were not able to bring it over with the merger.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 725963)

No, you've got to grow up. Name another job where you make a six figure income and when promotions (or demotions) come, you aren't expected to often have to move all over the country. Name another job where you can make a six figure income in Atlanta, GA, while living full time in Madison Wisconsin, all the time whining that your medical care in Madison Wisconsin isn't as good as it used to be, now that your company is headquartered in Georgia.

And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.