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Originally Posted by beer
(Post 748439)
I have to admitt....FTB was my flight instructor at Auburn. Some of the best times I had in flight training!!!! Nothing but love for FTB!!! P.s. I failed that ride!!! Thanks FTB
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 748443)
And DAL still hired ya?
By that point they were scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for people! :D
Originally Posted by beer
(Post 748453)
they sat me next to him in class.
Damnit. I didn’t think that out.
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 748417)
FtB can be very scary at times. He can dive in to some information and create some awesome tools. I think the union would love someone with his abilities.
Thanks man! I’m going to show my wife... who might have gone upstairs already...
Originally Posted by beer
(Post 748424)
So would all the men in midtown!!!
Beer, {edited for content}, ha! who's laughing now, huh? So, just to prove myself, I give you all something hot… http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ce76S52uA7...ealovesong.jpg [COLOR=black]
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 748443)
forgot to bid 1,316
johnso29 970 Bucking Bar 912 Superpilot92 774 newKnow 723 (and never once changed his avatar, the man is a solid rock) 80ktsClamp 595 Never has one man (me) said so much to so many that amounted to so little. Can we see who has posted the most pictures?
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 748468)
FtB, remember your Birthday with the divert to CSG!!! (Can't remember who was on call and picked us up that day? RD, WW, WL?)
Oh I remember. The divert of shame on my 20th birthday. It was TG and BF, both hired months before us! :D Auburn and fog. You know the worse part about that whole day was there was a surprise birthday party for me at my buddies place and I completely missed it. Cake and all! But hey, at least we all went to Outback.
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 748814)
Yeah.. like that's EVER gonna happen.
That’s what she said. The Office is on.
Originally Posted by DAL330drvr
(Post 748875)
With over 12,000 of us, we're nutz staying at ALPA. With the loss of most of the Pensions and the rape of our profession, the least we should do is demand them to lower our dues or we are leaving!
It would be a good move, but what would we lose? |
Originally Posted by DAL330drvr
(Post 748875)
With over 12,000 of us, we're nutz staying at ALPA. With the loss of most of the Pensions and the rape of our profession, the least we should do is demand them to lower our dues or we are leaving! :D
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 748932)
It would be a good move, but what would we lose? |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 748932)
It would be a good move, but what would we lose?
We are squandering the real value of being in a national union, because we have no interest what so ever in unity with our fellow laborers who perform Delta flying. In effect we have this really nice jet that we never fly further than Atlanta - Charlotte, which we never exceed 2,000 feet AGL. We are paying a lot of money for a tool we don't use. What remains is mostly administration of our own contract, which we do a good job at. IMHO we could cancel the magazine subscription, since we are not interested in the contents. We should stick around to see Moak selected as President of the Association. ACL65 for MEC Chair! |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 748822)
It doesn't sit right with me either, and I'm surprised to see the conventional wisdom here to be "bend over here it comes."
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From the Chicago Paper:
-------------------------------------- United Airlines pilots union to pay $44M to settle lawsuit by some members By: Paul Merrion Jan. 21, 2010 (Crain’s) — The pilots union at United Airlines has agreed to pay $44 million to about 2,000 senior pilots who claimed they were shortchanged by a lump-sum financial deal the union cut to get the Chicago-based carrier out of Bankruptcy Court four years ago. The settlement puts to rest a class-action lawsuit brought by several former leaders of the union, which potentially could have cost the Air Line Pilots Assn. nearly $200 million had it gone to trial. Legal experts believe it to be the largest settlement ever in a case based on the “duty of fair representation,” an area of labor law where courts usually give union leaders a lot of leeway to define what’s fair. “That’s a substantial settlement,” said Martin Malin, a Chicago Kent College of Law professor who has written a reference book for lawyers on the duty of fair representation. “It sounds like the union had a lot to be worried about.” Although much of the settlement is believed to be covered by insurance, it’s a big hit for ALPA at a time when its finances are strained by airline mergers and diminishing pilot ranks. The union declined to comment, but did not admit to any wrongdoing in agreeing to the settlement. The case revolved around the distribution of a $550-million convertible note the union agreed to accept in exchange for termination of the pilots’ pension plan, a critical element of United’s strategy to exit Chapter 11. The deal allowed the note to be sold for $537 million in cash, with distribution of the proceeds left up to the union, which chose to give junior pilots about $200 million more than their more seasoned colleagues. The deal does not resolve the question of whether United ultimately will be on the hook for the money. United intervened in the case to get a ruling that it has no liability and to prevent any reopening of its bankruptcy case, but the settlement heads off a decision on the issue. On Thursday, ALPA sued United in New York state court to recover the money, according to a report. A spokeswoman for the airline said it had not received any court filings and would not discuss pending litigation. As part of its bankruptcy agreement, United protected ALPA from having to pay damages stemming from the bankruptcy plan, with some exceptions. At the very least, experts said it’s likely to come up for discussion as a bargaining issue when contract talks between United and ALPA heat up this fall. “It’s a debit on the mental balance sheet,” said Jack Gallagher, a longtime airline labor lawyer with Paul Hastings Janofsky Walker LLP in Washington, D.C. “United could say we have no obligation to discuss the $44 million,” he added, “but ALPA has a way to create issues when it isn’t happy.” A secondary question is whether the settlement will inflame or calm down the friction that the case created between younger and older pilots, whose interests often diverge when it comes to issues such as pay, job security and retirement age. “There was a lot of damage done to unity based on seniority levels,” said John Mansfield, the lead plaintiff, who is a retired captain for United and former chairman of the union’s Chicago chapter. “Senior pilots are looking at junior pilots with animosity and vice versa.” About ten days before the case was scheduled to go to trial, ALPA settled, and the deadline for any objections by senior pilots eligible to participate in the class-action case expired Tuesday, making it final. “We took the case based on a simple analysis that these guys earned the money and the younger guys took it from them,” says the plaintiffs’ attorney, Myron “Mike” Cherry, a Chicago commercial litigator who runs his own law firm, which will collect a 35% contingency fee. “We thought just on the simple basis of equity we should be able to find a way to get past summary judgment and get to trial.” |
That's a big hit to our Major Contingency Fund.
Wonder if in future settlements ALPA could make the acceptance of funds an acknowledgment of the sufficiency of settlement and release of future claims. In my opinion, we distributed the merger proceeds very unfairly. The junior pilots lost the most (present position, or future upgrade potential depending on which side you look at it from) but got paid the least. Still, it was unusual for us to get anything and I certainly would not advocate suing our union. I'm grateful for what I did get. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 748887)
Problem is if there is no appeals, and ALPA National has the money (MCF) they have to pay prior to the suit against UAUA by UALALPA even goes to court. Would be nice to stop any payment or schedule until this part of it get settled.
Oh what a mess....... |
Funny BlueMoon posted because right now I'm drinking BlueMoon. Ok, funny for just me. :p
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FTB,
Is that a pic of Sara Evans??? |
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