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Superpilot92 11-26-2008 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 506816)
Without having access to the information, I seem to recall the flowthrough by Mesaba involved around 30 pilots. Compass however, has many more guys eligible to flow up. Someone else may recall the specifics on this.

only about 15 or so mesaba pilots have flowed up this far and 0 compass pilots have flowed as of yet. Compass flowthrough requires 30 months at compass before they are eligible to flow, which noons has been there 30 months yet. The massba flowback means the number of flowthroughs = number of seats available for flowbacks. With compass it's 100% of the seats are available for flowbacks as of right now. That point is a significant deterance for mgmt to not furlough at mainline because of the training cost associated. That's probably the best thing in regards to the flowthrough agreement as it concerns to the mainline side. IMHO

Bucking Bar 11-26-2008 08:46 PM

ACL:

767B is rarely over required reserves. Displacements? That much block getting pulled despite the volume of additions to the Jepp binders? Something doesn't seem to add up.

As others asked, how many?

buzzpat 11-26-2008 10:49 PM

[quote=dragon;506546]What I heard today is there are not enough folks in the 88 categories and many in the 800 aren't flying enough.

That wouldn't be true for the LAX B category. Maybe A. I'm flying my butt off.

acl65pilot 11-27-2008 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 506840)
ACL:

767B is rarely over required reserves. Displacements? That much block getting pulled despite the volume of additions to the Jepp binders? Something doesn't seem to add up.

As others asked, how many?

Bucking, lets think about why this rumor would be surfacing right now....
This only a guess, but I think that Crew Resources has looked at the current bidding pattern for the CVG 7ER category. I am betting that they do not like what they are seeing. (Lots of training costs) Because of this they may be thinking of pulling the bid and then reducing the 767 out of CVG. My guess is that the displacements would come out of there. Most of their flying starts and ends with a DH to ATL. They are flying mostly great trips with great block. It costs the company a lot of money to keep this up.
The ATL 767 is the accumulator of the system. I do not see a draw down of it. We all get used quite a bit. The only way for a draw down to occur would be for there to be a block hr reduction system wide for next summer. I do not see that to a level that would effect your position.
Now what may effect your status in equipment is other displacing from CVG. Many do not want to mess their body clocks up. They will commute or bid in to another domestic jet to do that. This is what we call a ripple effect.
As with everything, it is all talk to the AE is out. There are just my thoughts about what is behind the statement that way made to me as well as a few others with good access to knowledge.

dragon 11-27-2008 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 506863)

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 506546)
What I heard today is there are not enough folks in the 88 categories and many in the 800 aren't flying enough.

That wouldn't be true for the LAX B category. Maybe A. I'm flying my butt off.

While I didn't break minimum this month I flew a lot. However there were still guys in CVG that have single digit raw scores today. I don't know where Terry's statement came from but he's where I heard they're trying to redistribute the 800 guys.

No matter what, if the CVG 767 displaces, I'll be looking for a new base/plane. I did hear that the CVG 7ER is looking very senior (5300 ish). This is being exasperated by crew resources not deciding to fully staff the ER. There were supposed to be 50 extra FO slots.

acl65pilot 11-27-2008 06:03 AM

Well I just looked at only 32 pilots have the CVG 7ERB bid senior to me.

dragon 11-27-2008 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 506923)
Well I just looked at only 32 pilots have the CVG 7ERB bid senior to me.

Does that include the displacements?

Is there a way I can see how many folks have CVG displacements above me in icrew?

bohicagain 11-27-2008 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 506838)
only about 15 or so mesaba pilots have flowed up this far and 0 compass pilots have flowed as of yet. Compass flowthrough requires 30 months at compass before they are eligible to flow, which noons has been there 30 months yet. The massba flowback means the number of flowthroughs = number of seats available for flowbacks. With compass it's 100% of the seats are available for flowbacks as of right now. That point is a significant deterance for mgmt to not furlough at mainline because of the training cost associated. That's probably the best thing in regards to the flowthrough agreement as it concerns to the mainline side. IMHO

Actually Compass has about 8 guys eligible to flow up. These guys are management pilots who are part of ALPA. Not sure if they would flow but the first line guys are eligible in March and by the end of next year sure be around 70+

acl65pilot 11-27-2008 06:10 AM

I am not sure, I do not think so. Anyone know?

Rhino Driver 11-27-2008 06:16 AM

Haven't figured that one out. That's the biggest problem I think. No one in CVG knows where the displacement bids are for the 76 category. Do they want to stay in CVG, or stay on the 76??? That is the question.


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