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acl65pilot 03-23-2010 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 782662)
Reddog,

I was thinking exactly the same thing. The Fed's inspectors are so "sharp", that they miss that an airline 'failed to inspect' an item for 18 years. How 'bout fining the FAA inspectors? Or do they just get a pass, as "they are here to help us." Where do they find some of these guys? Sheesh...
Chuck

It is always nice to be the whipping post for someone.

If they allow increased foreign ownership, then I bet DAL moves to merge with AF/KLM.

Can we say SkyTeam Air Lines anyone? :eek:

tsquare 03-23-2010 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Burn Notice (Post 782576)
Because the revenue potential in LGA far exceeds that of LUV and we know it.


It would be like trading Peyton Manning for Rex Grossman. RG is an OK QB, but Peyton is much much better. So... if you want Manning, you had better throw in a few running backs/linebackers/water buckets and a few draft picks for the next 20 years. Not to mention cash.. lots of cash.

sinca3 03-23-2010 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 782625)
Gotta love the feds. This alleged maint problem was from 2005-2008, and their crack inspectors are just discovering this now:D

The way I understand it is Delta found the oversight and corrected it, then self disclosed the error made by former NWA.

chuck416 03-23-2010 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 782728)
The way I understand it is Delta found the oversight and corrected it, then self disclosed the error made by former NWA.

I KNOW you're not coming to the defense of the FAA here...So, lemme' get this straight: DAL self-discloses a MTX oversight, then corrects said oversight, reports it to the FEDS, and now they want to fine us for what amounts to an accounting/tracking error--THAT WE FOUND!!! Good grief. And this is the bunch that's now gonna' run the nations health care. Lord help you if you get seriously ill. I wouldn't want these guys to put a band aid on me.
Chuck

acl65pilot 03-23-2010 09:53 AM

Chuck. That is the way it is done. It is the same way they found the SWA issues with the window frame inspections. Self reporting does not alleviate the fine, it only shows good will. We have a responsibility per the FAA to self disclose with in a given amount of time after becoming aware of such an issue.

Stratosphere 03-23-2010 10:24 AM

Where was the FAA then?
 

Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 782662)

Reddog,
I was thinking exactly the same thing. The Fed's inspectors are so "sharp", that they miss that an airline 'failed to inspect' an item for 18 years. How 'bout fining the FAA inspectors? Or do they just get a pass, as "they are here to help us." Where do they find some of these guys? Sheesh...
Chuck

Well if the FAA had been doing it's job they would have dropped the hammer on NW in 2005 during the mechanics strike. Their own inpector Mark Lund who found numerous maintenance problems occuring was pulled off the line and put behind a desk because NW complained. Looks like the FAA was bought and paid for if you ask me.

sinca3 03-23-2010 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 782732)
I KNOW you're not coming to the defense of the FAA here...
Chuck

Your right.....I'm not coming to the defense of the FAA, just pointing out what really happened...chill out!

fishguy79 03-23-2010 11:25 AM

Fleet Data
 
Hey ACL, any thoughts on why the fleet data has not been updated since Dec 09. I have watched that page for years and they used to update in monthly or bi monthly at the longest. Not that I am a conspiracy theorist or anything:D

Burn Notice 03-23-2010 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 782710)
It would be like trading Peyton Manning for Rex Grossman. RG is an OK QB, but Peyton is much much better. So... if you want Manning, you had better throw in a few running backs/linebackers/water buckets and a few draft picks for the next 20 years. Not to mention cash.. lots of cash.

TSquare is using former FUer in the same sentence as Sir Peyton? There are surely 4 horsemen riding around here somewhere.:D

PS-draft picks for 20 and cash for 30!

Burn Notice

forgot to bid 03-23-2010 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 782662)

Reddog,
I was thinking exactly the same thing. The Fed's inspectors are so "sharp", that they miss that an airline 'failed to inspect' an item for 18 years. How 'bout fining the FAA inspectors? Or do they just get a pass, as "they are here to help us." Where do they find some of these guys? Sheesh...
Chuck

I was wondering, did DAL figure this out and self report and now the FAA wants to fine them? The figure of $1.45M seems low given the amount of years. If so then I say screw you DOT, if you didn't find it and we found it and fixed it then you get $0.

I'm betting this might not be the first thing we find on the N side or S side as with any airline if you get a second set of eyes on the books and in the shop they'll find something. I know of some really rich corporate departments that have inspections occasionally done outside of their own department to have a second set of eyes see the plane and look at the books. The corporate aircraft I was on had 1 maintenance shop doing the work and 2 other entities looking at the books. It requires some humble pie and fat wallet to allow it. Or in IAH, umble pie.


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