Originally Posted by Ralphie (Post 517525)

Well, let's see. I just went and reread it--"I WILL NOT lose 20+ years of my life whining about how I got screwed by the merger. You might want to consider doing the same." No, you never quoted me directly, but you sure as hell implied it. Nice try though.

And I never insulted your intelligence, just questioned it a bit in hopes of prodding you into clarifying some of your assumptions. How about this, I'll believe you weren't implying I was a whiner who thinks he got screwed if you believe me when I say I think you're very intelligent.:D

Peace, my new, senior Delta brotha.

Originally Posted by daldude (Post 517652)

Acl,

While Delta says they do not intend to furlough, I would hate to for the ultra new guys on both list to think that has any actual bearing on what they will do. I would expect them to say they are not going to furlough until the day they announce the furlough. They fully understand that pilots who are going to be furloughed have a high sick rate and such making it difficult for the company to get it ducks in a row prior to the actual furlough.

Case in point the day before the initial 400 furlough announcement at DAL in 2001, I spoke face to face with the DFW chief pilot Ron Dockers or Donckers can't remember is last name concerning me going back to my old job and about possibly taking a leave of absence. He looked me in the eye and said they were not going to furlough and to not pursue the job. I walked out of his office started my trip and the next morning the furlough coordinator called me and said I would be furloughed in 24 days. So I personally would not trust the company or the union for that matter to provide you with any information to plan your life around. We cannot forget that they have absolutely no interest in our lives we are numbers on a piece of paper and/or an expense.

Johnso29,

It may be my mistake on the NW furloughs. I got that information from the SLI transcripts. I did go back and take a quick look and I did make a mistake, the company had contacted the union about furloughing 350 NW pilot but it appears they put it on hold to because of the merger. As far as DAL was concerned I can find no evidence that supports and upcoming DAL furlough but I could have missed something. Concerning the reductions I was simply referring to the 12 to 15% cut that was announced by Delta and is fairly well documented in various press releases as well as on this board.

As far as the early outs being offer to the other employees, I suspect that given the expense and other contractual issues that pilots bring to the table we will be offered something different or they will just furlough. So in that we agree.

Originally Posted by Mudhendrvr (Post 517696)

Soooo, hoping I dont get F'd, how many of the former NWA dudes want to get out west? Wasn't the group pretty heavy east coast and midwest?

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel (Post 517704)

Are the voluntary out / early retire programs been offered to all new DAL employee groups, including pilots? Any details of what is included and if it would be attractive to any?