unfortunately PG is right. These are two seaparate issues.

We may not like how the contract us written but a grievance implies that the company is not living up to their end of the bargain. Attempting to grieve something that the company is in compliance with will go nowhere.

This is different than the MEC taking no action despite having resolutions come up from the LEC's.

The issue I, and several others, have is that the company is adding up to 16 days prior to a longevity step based on their interpretation of the fnwa contract. This comes out to around $500 from 2nd to 3rd year pay. I do believe the company is misinterpreting this section of the jpwa and will be following up on it.

I do not expect the company to step up my longevity based on my DOH because this is not what we agreed to in the jpwa.

Should this have been fixed? Absolutely!

Should the MEC have flushed the resolution directing them to look at this? IMO no, but that's what they did and filing a grievance against the company is useless, and groundless, as these are two different issues.

Wrong. DAL has had pilots in this exact situation for 25 years, and their longevity has never been "fixed". They are still on the list with two separate dates. Granted, it doesn't matter much now, though it still will if we ever get additional vacation weeks, or anything else granted by years of longevity. We've had multiple contracts where this could have been addressed but it never was. So why address yours now?

Wrong again, Super. Just not true.

And you get the Jan 1 pay raises too. And the longevity raises, just like you always have, coming at the time you always have. BTW, if DAL is doing it wrong as it relates to the 8th vs. 15th vs 26th etc. that's a legitimate beef. But asking for everyone to have their longevity date moved isn't. It simply wasn't negotiated for ANYONE, former DAL or NWA.

Again, many different sections of the contract had different implementation dates. You are getting exactly what you were getting, plus additional 1% bumps on Jan 1 of 2010, 11, and 12. Exactly what the DAL guys are doing too. Then the final phase in occurs on 12/31/12.

OK - give me my pension back, and I'll give you your longevity! :D

I agree that that may be a legitimate beef. Has anyone called CA to determine what is really going on?

Super and many like myself have no pension either.

This is so tiring.

Moak doesn't throw anything away that the MEC doesn't let him throw away. When are you guys gonna stop blaming everything on one guy? Do you honestly think the entire MEC is so hypnotized by the mystical Moak as to be powerless to stop his evil ways.....:confused:

I plan on doing so Monday morning. I'm on a trip and don't have my fnwa contract with me. I want to get home and make sure I've got all my info straight before I start making phone calls.

No deal.

Pension for DOH seniority list we can talk.

Now if this isn't ironic. You see, the Contract Admin guy (KW) was forced to resign as he was trying to resolve north grievances. How the world turns.:rolleyes:

First off, I didnt start the discussion again about the DOH longevity issue, i just commented on it. I realize that wont be fixed right now, However i do want it fixed in the next contract.

With that said, the above is what my beef is right now. I called the union and company about this today and its getting looked into. The DAL side is telling the NWA side how the NWA side interpreted the contract. Thats a problem. They're trying to give us our longevity bumps on the date the first person in our class finished OE and thats not how NWA did it. Its cleary written in the contract that the NWA pilots will get longevity credit based upon the old NWA longevity process. The company is saying that longevity is the date the guy finished OE and that thats how we will get our longevity bumps.



^^^^^That is the issue i have that i think can be fixed now. The DOH issue obviously isnt going to get fixed right now.

One word, yes.