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Let me get one thing straight, overall I am very happy as I believe most are. That being said, it would be nice to fine tune this thing.

As a back slapper to all of us, we have created the one merger that all others look to. This has been the most amicable merger in history and we all deserve kudos for that.

Superpilot92

04-23-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 800742)

I plan on doing so Monday morning. I'm on a trip and don't have my fnwa contract with me. I want to get home and make sure I've got all my info straight before I start making phone calls.

I've got it all right in front of me, they're trying to spin it to benefit them. PM me an email address and i'll email it to you if you'd like.

Superpilot92

04-23-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 800758)

Agreed 100%

sailingfun

04-23-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 800542)

A lot of the vacancies on the 744, whether in DTW or JFK, are probably coming from the PIRP retirees that will retire this month and from the last couple of months.

Denny

All Prips would have been accounted for on the last bid. If there are vacancies this bid it would be because of a planned increase in block hours.

acl65pilot

04-23-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 800758)

And all of that will be lost if we continue down a divisive path. It may not seem like much, but it will slow and permanently divide this group.

johnso29

04-23-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 800734)

Wrong again, Super. Just not true.

Actually, it's 100% true. Exception 3 was added after the negotiations broke down.

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 800734)

And you get the Jan 1 pay raises too. And the longevity raises, just like you always have, coming at the time you always have. BTW, if DAL is doing it wrong as it relates to the 8th vs. 15th vs 26th etc. that's a legitimate beef. But asking for everyone to have their longevity date moved isn't. It simply wasn't negotiated for ANYONE, former DAL or NWA.

No we aren't, & that's the beef. At NWA our raise kicked in on the 1st of the month. DAL is giving us our pay raise on a different day, 8 days later to be exact. They can't cherry pick the best of both languages to their advantage. We want them to abide by the contract that was agreed to. It's just like the large RJ formula. They somehow managed to interpret it to their advantage, & now we have even more 76 seat RJs flying around at DAL pilots expense.

acl65pilot

04-23-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 800759)

I've got it all right in front of me, they're trying to spin it to benefit them. PM me an email address and i'll email it to you if you'd like.

You have an e-mail. (Not a PM)

sailingfun

04-23-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 800425)

NYC was the "original" 744 base when NW was the launch customer for Boeing.

This of course begs the question. Are the fNW recall rights still valid? :rolleyes:

s part of the 1993 concessions, NWA MEC allowed the entire NYC 744 base to be moved without any bids or displacements. There will be lots of DALN folks bidding NYC744.

It also brings up another question. The FMNW pilots have filed a grievance claiming that since the 777 is flying many former NWA routes in DTW it should not have been fenced and is a replacement aircraft.
If the NWA pilots are going to continue with that grievance then it stands to reason that the same thing applies to the 747 in NYC which will be flying Delta routes. It should not under that logic be a fenced aircraft. The bid should be a open bid.

acl65pilot

04-23-2010 02:20 PM

Johnso, that LOA was agreed to by the MEC. Those jets are flying around because we (the MEC) agreed to it. We got our interpretation to the language agreed to.
**lesson is to make sure that we have copious notes on this sort of thing (intentions) from the negotiators in the next section six cycle.

acl65pilot

04-23-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 800768)

And maybe the arbitrator will rule to tear the fences down. :eek:

The Arbitrated list as I understand it fences aircraft and not routes! :rolleyes:

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