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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 801822)
Well, if you GS/IA a trip on day 1 of reserve you receive straight pay no credit for the 1st day. That's why I was thinking that you would get straight pay no credit for the first 2 days if day 1 of the GS/IA trip was on a X day.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 801496)
And here we are stacking away cash and paying down debt, yet we are still losing money. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Not disputing your point slow. I understand what you're saying. Just pointing out how tricky bean counters are. :mad::mad: |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 801786)
Thanks for sharing.
But lets kind of rewrite this slightly for the peanut gallery... dudes, hail marry offense or the west coast offense? Which is wiser for us? I'm kind of thinking west coast, because thats 2 years to move the ball wherever the opportunity allows vs waiting until the 3rd down on our own 10, 2012, and going 5-wide and throwing deep. 4 months to go. Just 4 months any my wife is giving me an angry look. I think the laptop is about to be thrown out into the rain. This is a point I wanted to make last night, but opted to hit the rack instead. What Alfa is stating makes a lot of sense for the current conditions. The companies financial health and outlook will change greatly this year much less 2011 and beyond. I do not think that at this time anyone can state X will not be achievable. A lot of things that I have constantly pointed out need to happen one way or another to determine the viability of ANY proposal. A percentage below C2K, C2K as a benchmark or otherwise. Alfa is wise in pointing out many of these things. He's been there, but this company is about to morph in to something we have all been waiting more for many moons. Lets wait and see what that is before we paint ourselves in to one idea or direction. Time is on our side. We need to start formulating our proposal soon, but it is OK to have a few drafts sitting on the table. |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 801759)
Also, my personal opinion is that the former NWA reps need to work on healing the damage their old MEC did during the merger and SLI talks.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 801744)
http://www.albany.com/wellness-blog/...e-Lawsuits.jpg
Pilot v Doctor, you know the one thing Doctors have that we don't have is non-governmental Certification Boards run by professionals within the field. |
No posts from midnite until 6am. Is that a record for this thread? Clamp were you in Talladega? Put on the cone of shame.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 801868)
FtB;
This is a point I wanted to make last night, but opted to hit the rack instead. What Alfa is stating makes a lot of sense for the current conditions. The companies financial health and outlook will change greatly this year much less 2011 and beyond. I do not think that at this time anyone can state X will not be achievable. A lot of things that I have constantly pointed out need to happen one way or another to determine the viability of ANY proposal. A percentage below C2K, C2K as a benchmark or otherwise. Alfa is wise in pointing out many of these things. He's been there, but this company is about to morph in to something we have all been waiting more for many moons. Lets wait and see what that is before we paint ourselves in to one idea or direction. Time is on our side. We need to start formulating our proposal soon, but it is OK to have a few drafts sitting on the table.
Originally Posted by maddogmax
(Post 801870)
Always remember a doctor buries his mistakes. We get buried with our mistakes
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Originally Posted by 1234
(Post 801796)
If it is less than 12 hrs it is not a proffer if you acknowledge the trip (i.e. answer the phone). You have a few contractual outs, but it is not a proffer.
You sure about that? 23-3 c. A long call reserve pilot who is inversely assigned a rotation with a report that is within 12 hours of the first attempted contact will receive single pay, no credit for the first duty period of the rotation (in addition to any other pay and credit for the bid period). Note: Inverse assignment of a long call reserve pilot within 12 hours of report will be by proffer. Don't think this can be any clearer. |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 801759)
This whole discussion of "restoration" vs. "pattern bargaining" is going to be one the key issues facing the MEC in the next few years.
The MEC will face a choice: they can start rebuilding the contract sooner by hitting some singles and doubles, or they can wait and try to hit the grand slam. Also, my personal opinion is that the former NWA reps need to work on healing the damage their old MEC did during the merger and SLI talks. I am sure that accommodations need to be made from others, but many of the players that initiated these scorched earth tactics are still around and they should take ownership of their actions. Good points on the negotiations and where the MEC needs to be. On the latter point I think you minimize the why and how they got there, and the accommodation part. I'm not justifying the tactics of the letters, only commenting again they are symptomatic of underlying issues. The sooner we blend the two airline/MEC cultures the better off we will be - emphasis on melting pot. It's a new airline that happens to be called Delta, not the acquisition and assimilation of NWA pilots by DAL pilots. That will require accommodation on the part of both - so far the DALN pilots who make up apx. 40% of the airline have been doing 95% of the accommodating. I can see you are toning down your rhetoric and that is appreciated, but the implication is still if the fNW Reps would "just get with the program" and quit the divisiveness all would be well. Maybe we need a new program that is "best practices" of both :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 801871)
No posts from midnite until 6am. Is that a record for this thread? Clamp were you in Talladega? Put on the cone of shame.
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