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Superpilot92 05-05-2010 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 806969)
It did, however, take me a frikkin hour to figure out where the ramp freqs at DTW were hidden. That was a little embarrassing.

lol :D .

capncrunch 05-05-2010 01:45 PM

Could you guys put a clamp on your political talk.

Moderator, where are the warnings? Are those only for lefties?

EricMercury 05-05-2010 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Deez340 (Post 194752)
wow. gojet... huh? I had a friend say the two classes previous to that we're 50% military and heavy on ASA. forgive my ignorance, but what's avjet?

Avjet / Avjet BBJ is based out of KBUR. They operate about 25 aircraft on a 135, including a couple B-737-NG BBJ aircraft. They manage a butt load more. They are a world wide high end charter and have been around since the late 1970's. They are also the company who flew President Clinton to North Korea last August in one of their BBJ's.

johnso29 05-05-2010 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 806971)
:eek: What am I going back to???


An understaffed fleet, leading in redeyes and sick calls! See a pattern? :eek:

Stay away! Far away, especially if you're senior to me!:p

johnso29 05-05-2010 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 806978)
Could you guys put a clamp on your political talk.

Moderator, where are the warnings? Are those only for lefties?

We are watching, and it's getting close to crossing the line.

MOD NOTE:

I'll ask again that participants on this board adhere to the TOS, and refrain from making political posts. Comments about past administrations and current administrations violates our TOS.

Cmon people! We just announced hiring!!! Who cares about that other junk. If you want to discuss it, use PM's or go to a different forum. It has no place here.

johnso29 05-05-2010 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 806965)
Actually, DTW is not a bad layover. I'm getting pretty comfortable with it. Just not a lot of scantily clad babes walking along the beach sipping a cerveza with their tops off, that's all.:D

Guess I need some more CUN layovers!:eek::D

acl65pilot 05-05-2010 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 806969)
It did, however, take me a frikkin hour to figure out where the ramp freqs at DTW were hidden. That was a little embarrassing.

Not hidden, just on the bottom left of the 10-9B page. Heck even teh 10-7 directs you to that page.

buzzpat 05-05-2010 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 806997)
Not hidden, just on the bottom left of the 10-9B page. Heck even teh 10-7 directs you to that page.

Or, they could just post them on the 10-7 page LIKE EVERY OTHER PLACE WE FLY INTO. The 10-7 page does refer you to 10-9B but the freqs are in a little box in the lower left hand corner. If ATL can clearly list the ramp freqs, certainly DTW, much quieter operation, could too. Not beeyatchin, I figured it out, just sayin....;)

alfaromeo 05-05-2010 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 806940)
Slow? Alpha? Any thoughts about the slot swap?

Well, I am not unbiased, but this is a terrible decision by the DOT. In tennis, you either go to the net or you get back to the baseline. If you get caught in the middle you will get creamed. In business you are either fully regulated or you are not. Right now this industry is caught in the middle and we are getting creamed. This is not a left or right issue because both sides are guilty. One side tends to interfere on labor issues and one side tends to interfere on industrial issues. In both ways, the pilots get to eat it in the end.

This slot swap is fully legal and meets all the requirements of the regulations. It should have been approved in a week. The DOT has no right to try to "level the playing field" in this industry. RC Cola (if they even exist anymore) does not get any special favors because they go up against Coke and Pepsi. If they can't compete then they can't compete. That is capitalism. In the same way, labor should be free to choose if they want to strike or not. They may make a poor decision and kill their company, but that is their right as their jobs are on the line.

I fully support the company going to court. The DOT does not have a right to try to support favored competitors and I feel they should win. The compromise offered by DAL and LCC was an excellent risk mitigation strategy, but now they should go for broke unless the DOT changes their minds. By the way, you see even the company makes compromises based on risk mitigation. Remember that the next time the union decides to settle a grievance rather than fight and risk a much worse outcome. (sorry I couldn't help myself)

The bottom line is we are either regulated or not. If we aren't regulated then get out of the way, except for safety issues. How much more screwed up does this industry have to get before we are allowed to change?

johnso29 05-05-2010 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 807003)
Well, I am not unbiased, but this is a terrible decision by the DOT. In tennis, you either go to the net or you get back to the baseline. If you get caught in the middle you will get creamed. In business you are either fully regulated or you are not. Right now this industry is caught in the middle and we are getting creamed. This is not a left or right issue because both sides are guilty. One side tends to interfere on labor issues and one side tends to interfere on industrial issues. In both ways, the pilots get to eat it in the end.

This slot swap is fully legal and meets all the requirements of the regulations. It should have been approved in a week. The DOT has no right to try to "level the playing field" in this industry. RC Cola (if they even exist anymore) does not get any special favors because they go up against Coke and Pepsi. If they can't compete then they can't compete. That is capitalism. In the same way, labor should be free to choose if they want to strike or not. They may make a poor decision and kill their company, but that is their right as their jobs are on the line.

I fully support the company going to court. The DOT does not have a right to try to support favored competitors and I feel they should win. The compromise offered by DAL and LCC was an excellent risk mitigation strategy, but now they should go for broke unless the DOT changes their minds. By the way, you see even the company makes compromises based on risk mitigation. Remember that the next time the union decides to settle a grievance rather than fight and risk a much worse outcome. (sorry I couldn't help myself)

The bottom line is we are either regulated or not. If we aren't regulated then get out of the way, except for safety issues. How much more screwed up does this industry have to get before we are allowed to change?


Excellent post alfa! I agree 150%. Especially the part that states we are either regulated or not. If Spirit wants to charge $45 for a carry on bag, they have every right to!!! It's a free market!!! If they want to charge $30 to use the bathroom they can. It's a free market!!!! People have a CHOICE to fly. They are not forced to. It is not a right, it is a privelege/business.

I also support the company taking this to court, and I would have been furious otherwise. This decision is BS, and I think we have a good case.:mad:


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