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TOGA LK 06-03-2010 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 821129)
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I think part of the Detroit flying plus up is profitability. Maybe all of it since in business everything is done with profitability in mind. I do think New York construction does play a role in DTW expansion too. They're trying to get the schedule dust to settle before the construction dust. DTW is definitely one of the nicest airports in the system.

On a related note, I pose a question. Since we didn't furlough when we parked airplanes in the desert, and we are pulling those airplanes out now - which we are completely manned for - and we are parking DC-9s shortly - and we are hiring (lets say the 300 this year covers retirements) - All the folks being hired next year (assuming 100/month) are going to fly what?

Is there a purchase order somewhere that is waiting to be announced or am I a paranoid schizophrenic with catatonic qualities?

Is this where obi wan kenobi says these are not the droids you are looking for?

Increase in fleet utilization, block hours.

forgot to bid 06-03-2010 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 821124)
11.Your contract's amendable date is December 31, 2012. What initial percentage pay raise do you expect to receive as part of an amended contract? (To enter your answer check "Please specify" and then enter your answer as a whole number, without a decimal point or a percentage sign.)
Please specify [___%]

What did we figure, about 42% is C2012 restoration? Which is about $800-$900M increase. Is that about right?

Just wanted to give folks a ball park of where restoration occurs for their over/unders.

If it was an 8-9% per year, by FTB math, I think by 2017 you'd be back to C2012 restoration without taking into account the time value of money. I think.

FTB math

sailingfun 06-03-2010 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 821071)
Training in progress.:D

Scheduling is swamped. They have not increased the size of crew scheduling in proportion to the new size of the airline.They are working like dogs and moral is now at a all time low. Its a totally different crew scheds from 18 months ago. Let you CP's know how you feel about this. They need ammunition to force the company to hire more schedulers.

Ad Lib 06-03-2010 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 821129)
On a related note, I pose a question. Since we didn't furlough when we parked airplanes in the desert, and we are pulling those airplanes out now - which we are completely manned for - and we are parking DC-9s shortly - and we are hiring (lets say the 300 this year covers retirements) - All the folks being hired next year (assuming 100/month) are going to fly what?

Is there a purchase order somewhere that is waiting to be announced or am I a paranoid schizophrenic with catatonic qualities?

Is this where obi wan kenobi says these are not the droids you are looking for?

The droid you are looking for is the EVO 4G.

Just reading tea leaves and web boards, but IF Delta has the ability to tap into the current financing rates on long term debt it would make sense to lock in some of that capital for fleet renewal (if not expansion) now. My guess is a quarter or two of solid profits with a pay down of our current debt, followed by aircraft orders and conversions. Also by then we should have a better picture what Boeing's narrow body plans and the Bombardier C Series are shaping up to be. Delta is a HUGE Bombardier customer, something along the lines of 12 Billion in the last decade, we just forget since we don't operate them.

The 787-9 is looking to be everything it was promised to be and more. Some bloggers are guessing the upcoming order for that jet to be a doubling of the 50 orders & options NWA placed. That airplane's ability to sniper shot Asia routes certainly is a tool we could put to good use.

It is my belief we've got to do something with our Douglas and 757 fleets. The wrinkle is that the cost of narrow body fleet renewal is going to be an eye watering number.

Hiring wise, obviously we need 300 to staff what is coming out the desert and getting utilized. But inactive pilots are expensive animals to have laying around and even worse if you have to furlough them. Delta is being very conservative on staffing, which is smart for both the bottom line and those effected.

My concern of the week is our own government and policies from the administration which are hostile to our industry. It seems to never fail in this tough business that just when you think you've got a quarter or two of smooth sailing a new, unexpected and dire threat pops up on the horizon. I don't think Obama and LaHood are going to be able to drive much business to AmTrack, but they sure can do some harm while trying.

sailingfun 06-03-2010 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 821129)
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I think part of the Detroit flying plus up is profitability. Maybe all of it since in business everything is done with profitability in mind. I do think New York construction does play a role in DTW expansion too. They're trying to get the schedule dust to settle before the construction dust. DTW is definitely one of the nicest airports in the system.

On a related note, I pose a question. Since we didn't furlough when we parked airplanes in the desert, and we are pulling those airplanes out now - which we are completely manned for - and we are parking DC-9s shortly - and we are hiring (lets say the 300 this year covers retirements) - All the folks being hired next year (assuming 100/month) are going to fly what?

Is there a purchase order somewhere that is waiting to be announced or am I a paranoid schizophrenic with catatonic qualities?

Is this where obi wan kenobi says these are not the droids you are looking for?

All the aircraft are coming out of the desert, In addition to the 757's in the desert the 757 fleet has been really underutilized. We have the ability to generate what amounts to 35 additional airframes by increasing the utilization back to historical norms. Add in the purchased MD 90's and some other airframes in the desert coming back and it has the same effect as purchasing 50 airframes.
There are as of last week no new aircraft purchases planned for the next 3 to 4 years. There was some talk of a 777 purchase but it seems dead unless something comes out of the 787 negotiations. Delta continues to take delivery of 737-800's but they are resold before they leave the factory to other airlines.

Bill Lumberg 06-03-2010 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 821146)
All the aircraft are coming out of the desert, In addition to the 757's in the desert the 757 fleet has been really underutilized. We have the ability to generate what amounts to 35 additional airframes by increasing the utilization back to historical norms. Add in the purchased MD 90's and some other airframes in the desert coming back and it has the same effect as purchasing 50 airframes.
There are as of last week no new aircraft purchases planned for the next 3 to 4 years. There was some talk of a 777 purchase but it seems dead unless something comes out of the 787 negotiations. Delta continues to take delivery of 737-800's but they are resold before they leave the factory to other airlines.

I saw a DL 738 sitting at BFI two days ago. Will that one be resold too? In DL paint? I read somewhere that we are getting 2 738s this year, and I bet that was one of them.

NWA320pilot 06-03-2010 01:25 PM

Why did DAL ALPA decide to open the latest poll to all pilots? Over on the ALPA forums the reps were touting the sample pool as accurate now they open it up for whomever feels like filling out the questionnaire...... Guess they didn't like the responses they were getting. :rolleyes:

scambo1 06-03-2010 01:29 PM

So what I hear you guys saying is these aren't the droids I was looking for. Thanks for the thoughtful responses, I'm glad I could jumpstart a new page on APC while I took my alpa survey.

Just one comment/question; I thought that CAL/UAL just got our 787-8's opening up the 777 option.

acl65pilot 06-03-2010 01:36 PM

Nice reading, keep it going.

NuGuy 06-03-2010 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 821140)
Scheduling is swamped. They have not increased the size of crew scheduling in proportion to the new size of the airline.They are working like dogs and moral is now at a all time low. Its a totally different crew scheds from 18 months ago. Let you CP's know how you feel about this. They need ammunition to force the company to hire more schedulers.

Not to start the whole us vs them thing again, BUT, fNWA ran with more than 4 times the number of schedulers on duty PLUS a host of fairly impressive automation tools like the reroute software package and "the machine". This was for slightly less than half the current number in our combined pilot group.

I think someone asked RA what keeps him up at night lately, and he replied "automation and IT".

Nu


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