Has anyone heard anything new from the base visits????? I've been on vacation and have avoided airplanes for a couple weeks.

I just edited my Amish post cuz it actually linked to some naughty stuff....oooops!!!!

THAT's where it went. I went back to click on it and it was gone.:eek:

Could not be any further from what is really true. I am not one that has to have it the NWA way. Both side have good and bad things but so far the door has been slammed hard in our face. I really wish you could experience some of it with all due respect to you because you are probably a really good guy. You might just be a little amazed at a few things. I agree that things had to be done quickly. Now we will see about the looking at best practices. The track record that we have experienced so far does not bode well for making things better and tends to lean heavily at status quoe. Is it so wrong for us to want to make things better??? We seem to always get the above reply that we want the NWA way. Well I am here to tell you that I want a combination of the ways because you have some good things and we do also. It is that simple, but we can't even get our foot in the door to get a discussion going on. That is very frustrating to us. We are missing a golden opportunity here on a whole multitude of ideas that could make this company better. NWA had an equipment services manager that showed dal how he could save them 30 million a year on their equipment maintenance and purchase. He was really good and saved NWA a ton. Door slammed and fired. These are things that we see and do not like. Yes DAL bought us but DAL is not the keeper of all secrets. Sooner or later the opportunities will be lost because people like me , Carl, and Ferd are beat down and we will just be you average grunt pilot that could give a crap about the company and put in our time to get our check and dread working at a company that could have been!!!!!:(

Well safety is more than you dude. You guys were totally silent during the NW mechanics strike while scabs who NW dug up from the gutter were working on your airplanes most who they had to fire later because they were drunks or whatever. You know NW aside from having a top notch dispatch and meterology dept also had a top notch maintenance program. Did you know DL came over to ask NW for help. The NW ATL engine shop after the DL MD-88 had the uncontained engine failure that killed a woman and her son in PNS and asked at the time was the top JT-8 engine shop bar none and DL found out their practices were different from NW such as streching the bolts on engine assembly. But what did NW do? They dismantled the best engine shop going and shut ATL down. It's all about the money and screw safety. NW was on their way to being another Valujet no thanks to the pilot group but now it belongs to DL.

At least where we could control training of the pilots we did and our pilot training was some of the best. Talk to your buds going to 320 school house. We are talking pilot training here not maintenance. How many times you been on strike my man or has DAL been on strike? As far as being another value jet don't think so. You probably would not know the premerger cash positions of each airline. Any way old argument and don't want to go there not productive. I would have like to have supported the mechanics strike but that was not my call, just for the record.

Works for me. I couldn't even tell you the names of any of the fleet captains, know only two CPs, and maybe know a handful of ALPA guys. Go replace each and every one of them with an fNWA person, and I'll ignore them with the same enthusiasm as I do the guys there now.

My kind of guy we might just get along. :)

In my best SoCal Hispanic accent, "I grow tired...."

Bingo.

Keen- go have a drink and come back when you've calmed down.