Fair enough - At least give him a chance to produce some results in his new position. As far as scheduling, he was in charge of scheduling since 2007, following the merger of two recently BK companies that formed the Worlds largest airline. Considering the situation, I think he did OK.

Scoop

Dang it Ferd!! You beat me to it.

Carl

Yup I'm fast!!

My best pick up line...........pleasssse oh pleassssse, it'll be over quick and you won't feel a thing:eek::D

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Scoop; Dead on about this guy. What you posted is not revisionist history. He is not a suit trying to get to the top.

And Carl;

You are correct too, on almost all, if not all counts. We DALS folks see it too and frankly I appreciate you and others constructively posting the things you post. Some of us, me included, on the south side just accepted how things were done in the past - because noone wanted to hear recommendations for improvement. I see some of that changing - from the stodgy Delta to the more updated, cutting edge Delta. Many changes, for the better began pre-merger, paid for largely on the backs of pilot pay cuts and the resulting cost savings.

Some improvements are coming as a result of the merger - IT is an area getting a ton of emphasis and I suspect it may, in a reasonable amount of time, be an improvement over what NW fielded. It just takes time to go from zero to hero.

I think everyone can understand that getting all the ducks re-aligned takes time. I am not asking for that time because I am just a line guy, but it seems reasonable to me that turning a ship the size of Delta around is not an instant event.

Even if everything was ready today, things take time to be fielded, people take time to be trained, think of all the gate computers and gate agents.

I dont think anyone would reasonably suggest or agree that training by memo is optimal. It is however a quick solution that checks the square until the right training and emphasis and synergizing can be done.

I cannot comment on the visine program because I honestly do not see things through the eyes of a FNW. I try to, but I cant because I do not know the people or personalities.

Scambo

I won't rain on your parade anymore, but consider this: He was in charge of scheduling when he saw the Delta system, and the NWA system. The NWA system was discarded in favor of paper and pencil for some scheduling items. Now scheduling is in disarray. He didn't do OK. Those were bad decisions and as a manager, you have to be held to account.

I hope he does better in his new role. Hoping is all any of us can do.

Carl

I thought it was "250 Pesos? Yeah, I've got that Mama San."

you punk. :mad:

:D

I'll try to find a picture, similiar to said, hot female, but not at this moment. I'd get in trouble. ;)

the tools, the training and the pay and advancement in responsibility providing much better pay, and never flatten that pay scale. But that's imho.

Good point. Maybe its why you should never have a slogan, have a mission, have a vision, just not a slogan. It'd be better if they announced this is "the year of the on time arrival". Not D0, but on time arrival, something the entire airline gets.

I say one better, they ought to stand in the gatehouse from the time a crew gets on a plane and walk off at push and then go stand on the ramp. Spend one period in the cockpit, one in the cabin. See the chaos with catering, see what happens when bag fees means more gate checks. See what it feels like to sit in a hot plane because someone who isn't back there is trying to save money. There is so much fun to be had back there and the work that goes on with nobody, zero, nada, nobody getting paid inside that plane. Also, go in there and stand behind the ramp controllers during IROPS.

Scambo,

Thanks, and I agree completely.

It's like talking about family, we can talk about crazy Uncle Ed but you can't. I think in a lot of cases it's like that with "best practices". I knew for a fact that NWA was all screwed up and we talked about it at length on long nights going from point A to B. I'm sure you guys did too. But, for example, bad mouth my flight attendants (you know the ones I complained about A LOT) and watch out!

We are just along for this ride. As far as computer stuff is concerned, lets hope they spend the big bucks and buy the best that money can buy. But, lets hope they do it soon.

Ferd

Great post Scambo, but with regard to what I've bolded above, this is the most frustrating part. Delta didn't have to go from zero to hero. When we merged, NWA brought state of the art enterprise software. We're only having to start from "zero" because Delta discarded what was very nearly "hero." That's the frustrating part.

Carl

Hummmmmmmmm what's the Peso to Yuan exchange rate;) I need a frame of reference