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Old 07-29-2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
So just curious, I got the recent flight ops email stating that 90 million dollars of the 2nd quarter profit has been set aside for profit sharing checks to be issued in February. Having never received a profit sharing check at delta I was wondering how that money is divided? Is that 90 mil just for the pilots or is that for all employee groups who get profit sharing?

Anyone?
If you use Alfa's numbers, $90M / 3 (pilot group = a 3rd) and divide by 10,500 pilots equals $2,857 as an average, some above some below.
Old 07-29-2010 | 06:54 PM
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The basis for each individuals award is as follows: Individual employee’s annual compensation in the year in which the PTIX was earned as a percentage of total annual compensation for that year for all eligible employees. The Association will have the right to review the methodology and calculation of awards prior to such awards.

This is from the contract.

The definition of "annual compensation" is also in the contract: “Annual compensation” for purposes of the profit sharing plan, means an employee’s gross earnings during the profit sharing plan year, including any sick and vacation pay (whether paid by the Company or from a disability and survivor trust), but excluding: a) expense reimbursements, b) expense allowances, c) income required to be imputed to the employee for any reason pursuant to federal, state or local law, d) profit sharing awards, e) earnings from any other incentive compensation program, f) Company contributions to a retirement plan, g) disability payments, h) income from the grant, vesting, exercise or sale of Delta stock or Delta stock options, i) income relating to, or resulting from, bankruptcy claims, notes, or other securities, j) medical plan payments and k) severance payments. In addition, annual compensation for the purposes of the profit sharing plan includes pilot furlough pay.

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Old 07-29-2010 | 06:57 PM
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Couple questions for the GS veterans:

1. I just was awarded a GS that put me 30/7 with a trip next month, which they dropped without pay. Was this correct?

2. Does a GS in a REG month count towards your GS trigger? For example, I'm at 65 hours next month, and the trigger is 75 (I think). If I pick up a 20 hour GS trip, will 10 hours be paid at double time?

3. Who gets to decide when a payback day is used? Can I pick up a high time day trip with the ability to later place my pb day on top of it? If I do this, will the dropped credit count towards the GS trigger?

I know it's asking alot, but any contract references would be handy to have. I've searched a little, but can't seem to get these nitty gritty answers nailed down.


Thanks to the peanut gallery in advance
Old 07-29-2010 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Couple questions for the GS veterans:

1. I just was awarded a GS that put me 30/7 with a trip next month, which they dropped without pay. Was this correct? Unless you gave consent to do that it doesn't sound correct. Usually, once a trip is on your line it's yours unless you drop, swap etc. This sounds like it should be a GSWC.

2. Does a GS in a REG month count towards your GS trigger? For example, I'm at 65 hours next month, and the trigger is 75 (I think). If I pick up a 20 hour GS trip, will 10 hours be paid at double time? In a month where you are below the GS trigger, a GS will be paid single pay up to the GS trigger and then double pay for the remainder. Looks like you got that.

3. Who gets to decide when a payback day is used? Can I pick up a high time day trip with the ability to later place my pb day on top of it? If I do this, will the dropped credit count towards the GS trigger? A payback day only comes in play for a reserve GS. It starts about 9 hours after you block in on the last leg. If there are not enough days left in the month then it goes into a payback day bank. I believe you and the scheduler must agree where it is to be used once it's in the payback bank. You have the rest of the calendar year to try and use that day when and how you want but if it's not used this way by Dec. 31 it becomes a "supplemental day" and will be available to add to one of your vacations the following vacation year.

I know it's asking alot, but any contract references would be handy to have. I've searched a little, but can't seem to get these nitty gritty answers nailed down. Sorry for no contract references.

Thanks to the peanut gallery in advance
Hope this helps. You probably already know 23Q is where it talks about GS's.

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Old 07-29-2010 | 07:25 PM
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ok I am really stupid but I want to drop a trip on 6 aug and pick up on 31 jul can't get it input on swap with pot what am I doing wrong??
Old 07-29-2010 | 07:52 PM
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ok I am really stupid but I want to drop a trip on 6 aug and pick up on 31 jul can't get it input on swap with pot what am I doing wrong??
I don't think you can do that since they aren't in the same bid month.
Old 07-29-2010 | 09:05 PM
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As a DN guy I am still not up to speed on the Duty Day. I know that we can be scheduled a max of 13.

When I look at my rotation and see two duty day numbers, one lower than the other.......which one do I add the two hours to to determine my max duty day ?

And........although the FAA says that we can go to 16 hours, our contract says that we can fly only two above our max scheduled duty day.

Soooo, if our max duty day is, let's say,....7 hours......are we then able to only go two hours above that, to 9 hours and go to the hotel?

Inquiring minds want to know....... recently during IROPS, crew tracking assumed that we were going to work up to the 16 hour duty day,...we pulled the plug at 14,.........
Old 07-29-2010 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
I don't think you can do that since they aren't in the same bid month.
Correct. Just went through the same exercise a few days ago. Here's what the scheduler told me: Drop the trip in August (that may or may not happen based on reserve coverage). AFTER the trip is off your schedule, White Slip the July trip. However, it may be gone by then, given to a different bidder. Then you're just SOL.

It's a big roll of the dice playing open time across month-ends.
Old 07-29-2010 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nerd2009
As a DN guy I am still not up to speed on the Duty Day. I know that we can be scheduled a max of 13.

When I look at my rotation and see two duty day numbers, one lower than the other.......which one do I add the two hours to to determine my max duty day ?

And........although the FAA says that we can go to 16 hours, our contract says that we can fly only two above our max scheduled duty day.

Soooo, if our max duty day is, let's say,....7 hours......are we then able to only go two hours above that, to 9 hours and go to the hotel?

Inquiring minds want to know....... recently during IROPS, crew tracking assumed that we were going to work up to the 16 hour duty day,...we pulled the plug at 14,.........
nerd,

I think it is +2 hours on whatever the duty day is listed as on your pattern.

I have to find it in the contract, but I'm pretty sure on that one.
Old 07-29-2010 | 09:43 PM
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The maximum scheduled duty time limitations set forth in Section 12 D. are scheduling
limitations only. Maximum scheduled duty time is calculated as of the point in time of
initial publication or creation of a duty period. A pilot will not be rerouted or required to
be on duty more than two hours beyond his applicable maximum scheduled duty time in
Section 12 D. 1. and 3. It is within the sole discretion of each individual pilot to decide
in any given situation whether he will remain on duty beyond his maximum scheduled
duty time plus two hours. A pilot’s decision not to remain on duty beyond his maximum
scheduled duty time plus two hours will be accepted without challenge by Crew
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