Look at us.
All this discussion and attention to single engine taxi, configuring late for landing and operating more efficiently and making more money for the company, etc. etc.

Meanwhile we happily slave away under bankruptcy imposed wage rates with nary a complaint.

Our loyalty to the group and determination to complete the mission is truly admirable.

I got four words:
Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory.

Have a cup of coffee. It should help. :p

I'll keep spreading/encouraging the SE Taxi mentality. You're free to do as you wish.

Hey Check,

That one kind of struck a nerve with me. I absolutely am NOT happily slaving away under BK wages. I will continue to speak against this injustice and advocate that we recognize it for what it is and do everything possible to rectify it.

But I do still very much enjoy this job... and I very much enjoy going to work. I consider operating efficiently part of being a professional aviator. They can't take that away from me! But it doesn't mean I'm happy with BK wages at a company that is most definitely NOT in BK. And it doesn't mean I appreciate being taken advantage of like that.

The Captain I was just flying with and I just spent several legs discussing this very idea. We came up with a 3 tier system.

First bring the DC-9 (will now be a 125 seater with the parking of the 30's and 40's,) MD-88, MD-90, 320/319, 737 700/800, all into one tier based on the current 737 rates.

Next tier would be the 757/7ER tier based on current 767 pay.

Finally a widebody tier for the 767-400, 330, 777, 787, 747 based on 747 pay rates.

Coupled with good international and redeye types of overides.

We felt that this would do several things for our pay system:

Reduce training cycles as there would be less chasing of payrates.

Provide marketing with the ability to plan routes with labor costs being less variable. Planners love "fixed costs"

Help to move us from a pay system that was set up to maximize "final average earnings" in the last 5 years for a pension based retirement to a system that gives a more steady increase over the average career to fit the current defined contribution system that favors "time value of money" for retirement.

Only three aircraft types to discuss at the negotiating table as all others would slot into one of these.

As I move along and guys get to know me, I will do that. I think we should try to use SE taxi as much as possible. I'm just spending the first 6 months or so, watching and learning. Being one of only 2 Southies in base right now, I'm more concentrated at fitting into a new culture. Like I said, we all operate out of the same books, but the North and the South side interpret many things differently. Not better or worse, just different.

It must be a cold day in Arkansas. On this you and I are in complete agreement!

I want more. You want more. We differ in how to get there.

TC, I'm a LCA. There are no N1 limits for SE taxi. Plz PM me if you have any questions

You sir, are an exception to the rule. A true forum radical.
I admire your work both here and over at the dalpa site. Truly MUST READ stuff.
If everyone were as aware of our circumstances I'd be far more confident about 2012.

Maybe as the amendable date approaches, you and I will be more successful in raising awareness of the monumental hole that we are in and what its going to take to even get back to ground level.

I hear you. I'm the same way.
Sometimes its necessary to vent however.
Trying to do a good job on behalf of the same people who have me bent over grabbing my ankles is a bit too ironic some days.

Check, and DAL88, I do not think anyone disagrees that restoration is needed. Where people seem to differ is in its attainability.

Figure out how to change that, and that goal will be reachable.