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Originally Posted by NoStep
(Post 860021)
Delta has placed a firm order on Orgasmatrons?
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 860060)
I thought the Orgasmatron was from "Sleeper"... Woody Allen movie
http://www.collider.com/wp-content/i...lifianakis.jpg Oh wait, nope, you're right Tsquare. Wikipedia says its from Sleeper movie. So, there ya go, another 80 tall tale. I swear. |
So DAL will now start AUS, CMH, SAT, TPA to CUN. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by DAL73n
(Post 860033)
Actually, seems somewhat similar to a 737-200 - flew it on Express as a new hire (although the 737-200 did have some automation). Hated flying a manual airplane, non glass, non FMS A/C - all my respect in the world to ALL the DC-9 guys - never have any desire to fly it.
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
(Post 859657)
I had a direct converstaion with 757A who had no idea who the guy was and what he was doing. Only when he(ride along guy) went to the biffy did they discover the note taking and notes form the previous 30 days because the guy left his book there for eyes to see. Needless to say he was not real happy about the situation. I don't call that a stupid rumor. I'm sure that there was good intent with this program, however I think that possibly a few individuals administered it poorly. If you call that fanning the flames then so be it. I suppose that if you did not like something that was happening on your flight deck you would just accept it and move on because you would not want to make any waves and fan the flames.;) Personally I have no problems with the idea of this program, just they way it was done by some.
Bottom line is that the DTW reps are on it, and I believe this situation is now over. No fNWA captains will be allowing this type of behavior now that it's been outed. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 859614)
There was not a single pilot spied on at Delta or notes taken in secret. Again its all complete and utter BS. There is all a very bad rumor. Find one pilot who has been called in and had to discuss something from secret notes!
There are a few pilots who simply like to fan the flames. They enjoy it, its what they do. We have some in the south and they have some in the north. They will start, repeat and change every rumor to suit their needs. We have always had periodic ride along programs at Delta. Its a great safety tool and non punitive and not once has ever been punitive. The audits are normally done after major changes. Think we have had some of those? They always state who they are and why they are on the jumpseat. As far as the ride along program for the 757 NW guys again it was all above board. Your ability to suck up has not gone unnoticed. I'm sure the next time somebody needs a new Barney Fife guy to monitor hats and shoe shines, they'll think of you first. Carl |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 860075)
So DAL will now start AUS, CMH, SAT, TPA to CUN. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 860087)
You don't understand man. It didn't happen in front of sailingfun and some of the other usual suspects here. Therefore, it didn't happen.
Bottom line is that the DTW reps are on it, and I believe this situation is now over. No fNWA captains will be allowing this type of behavior now that it's been outed. The bottom line is that there is no one molecule of evidence that this really happened other than in the rumorsphere and world of paranoia. If it did, I can assure you that it would not be anything other than some "rogue" individual assuming duties for himself that would be far outside of what any directives Flt Standards may have issued. It would be like someone from the training department flying a normal trip, then spending the whole trip taking "notes" on his F/O's performance--I'm not saying that would never happen, but it would be completely his own delusional perspective, not some sort of officially sanctioned thing. And it would not be tolerated at all. |
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 860092)
As usual, you haven't a clue of what you're talking about. But that never stops you. Our union is on it and I'm pretty confident that everyone agrees that this will never happen again.
Your ability to suck up has not gone unnoticed. I'm sure the next time somebody needs a new Barney Fife guy to monitor hats and shoe shines, they'll think of you first. Carl '''I had a direct converstaion with 757A who had no idea who the guy was and what he was doing.'''' I'll try to dig the names for you in that I was a person listening to the events but was not privy to names.'''' The second statement is quite different from the first. That is how rumors get pushed around. I don't know why some NW pilots have such extreme paranoia. I don't know why they needed observers to watch each other within the union and in dealings with the company. I do know what thing for sure. The vast majority of NW pilots are great guys and great pilots. I have flown with quite a few now already. To a man and woman they are very professional and happy to be merged with Delta and did a outstanding job in the cockpit. They want to work for a common goal of improvements for everyone and don't carry any chips on their shoulders. Like the south however there are a few who can only be happy muckracking and finding faults be they perceived or real. Sadly they can taint a entire group easily and influence things well out of proportion to what should occur. The seniority list integration is a classic examply of how that can happen when you let the above type represent you. Get over the seniority list integration Carl. Its going to drive you into a early grave. Its in the background of everything you post and say about Delta. Time for me to take a long break from this forum!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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