hoserpilot

Hey Carl

With all those engines you have, how does a 747 crash??? Cant remember when one crashed on its own. They only seem to get shot down, explode in mid air, or hit each other in the fog. I'm extremely sorry about the UPS crash. At first I thought it was a friend of mine who passed. Fortunately he's was not involved. I was freaked out for awhile though cuz I knew his schedule took him to Dubai last week.......I still remember my first day flying freight. As I was filling out my newhire paperwork the chief pilots phone rang and his face turned white as a ghost. He excused me for a few minutes cuz one of our pilots flew into a mountain and was killed....all for $7.50 an hour.


Sorry everyone. I just read some more about the UPS accident. Now I know about the smoke in the cockpit. Scary stuff.

bigdaddie

... You said Sex-Tent. I love to go camping...

acl65pilot

It is scary. Smoke and Fire on a jetliner is a worst case scenario. No main deck fire suppression system, and no cockpit door. These will be items that are heavily looked at in the investigation of UPS 6.

Prayers to the families of Doug and Matthew. They had young families.

dalad

I just did the jumpseat deviating from deadhead ATL-SVO. It was a greenslip, so I had to go. You need to book it and be at the gate 75 minutes prior to departure so you can be on the Gen Dec. In my case the agent said to just write my name in which won"t work with the strict Russkies. So I called the chief pilot and he made sure the station manager was aware, and she met me on arrival in Moscow.

Adolphus Coors

I was wondering the same thing. It looked like they had 60 unfilled DTW 320 B positions. Surely they haven't been filled by new hires already. Shouldn't they be available to bid on this AE???

acl65pilot

They have to be in compliance with the PBS staffing formula and they should be. What you see in the projected head count is their ideal number.

Projected Category lists are just that projected, and frankly they are always changing.

Waves

Yeah, that's what CaptCrunch pointed out too. That it will be the half that were probably not even on the property at that time. That sucks. I guess its time to get over that grudge anyway.

It's interesting to also see a big push at some of the other carriers to change their subsidiary flying, both by management and the pilot groups. It made sense to farm out a few turbo props for the ultra short feeder routes, but with long range jets now in use, basically all carriers have become two carriers in one thus lowering the efficiency of both. I think managment has finally figured that out.

Remember when the E175's were coming out, Delta was going to buy a bunch of those for I think it was SkyWest or ASA. Our MEC told management that our pilots would fly those. Delta quickly responded that they couldn't afford the pay rates our pilots demanded. Our pay rates happened to be $2 less than theirs, but that didn't sway them at all. I think management is finally starting to wake up to the sobering cost of a second airline ownership or lease. As every pilot knows, jets are very inefficient on short routes.

P.S. My shortest scheduled flight ever was in a 767-300 from Miami to Ft Lauderdale. Scheduled at 6 minutes of flight time. It took us 11. I can't remember if we even raised the gear. Talking about an inefficient flight.

Ferd149

I remember reading some of the NWAs bankruptcy transcripts where they were discussing what became Compass. We told them we would fly the E175s, for the same rate, they just needed to make us an offer. The boy genius on the stand said we couldn't because of "Mainline Creep". Haven't heard the term before or since.

Waves

I guess what he was really saying was that if you fly for Compass, don't ever expect any sort of raise in your lifetime. Wasn't it ASA where they flew for several years without a contract? The only "Creep" those guys saw were "Management Creeps."

upndsky

Johnson, how do you figure you'll move up 50 numbers by Dec? The latest 22D3 calls for around 260 DTW320Bs. The Sep category list had 260 pilots in your category and you're 254. I'm sure there will be some movement with this latest bid, but I'm just curious how you come up with 50 numbers.