Maybe I'm mistaken but I believe most of Europe is more than 9 hours return to USA so there will still be a need for RP's. We might lose England but on the domestic side we might pick up a need for more pilots.

SCOPE NEGOTIATIONS

Scope Negotiations

EU legacy's losing both short and long haul
 

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Article in AW&ST about Europe vs Emirates and gang.

Basically what I read is this, the European legacy carriers lost their short haul market to low cost carriers. Lost it.

Now the gulf state carriers are killing them on the lucrative long-haul markets thanks possibly to an open skies agreement that backfired allowing Emirates as many flights into the U.K. as they wish, also because the quality of the service is far greater and of course the possibility of illegal state-aid, which is being litigated but may not be won, from inexhaustible oil resources.

Add one other thing, the EU is funding the expansion of Emirates which wasn't the intent of their export credit guarantees BUT if you end them they could stop buying Airbuses. So the EU must chose between its airlines and Airbus.

The solution may be of course to make short-haul profitable again which would grant more pricing flexibility on long-haul operations. The legacy carriers are "suffering today because, unlike Emirates, they cannot sustain lower long-haul fares- they need high yields to compensate for losses in the short-haul sector."

One consultant said the legacy carriers should strengthen their existing alliances "by enhancing offers for business travelers, such as more attractive frequent-flier programs and broader networks. He recommends that carriers also look at boosting long-haul business-class cabins at the expense of economy class in order to pick up as much of the intercontinental market as possible in the current upturn."

HA HA.

Pilot Negotiator: "I'm confused."

Management: "We know that."

I sure would like to see someone to make one of those with nothing but our conversations on this forum! Just straight copy and paste. Start with SWA buys AAI.

This site will be a big hit as 2012 approaches.

6 rounds of roll call voting and no new ALPA prez. Next round Lee Moak wins, Prater was just seen wearing a Moak pin.

If he gave his votes to Lee, Lee would have the votes to win.

Would someone mind PMing me the name of the long-layover crew hotel in New Orleans? I'm thinking of doing a weekend there w/my wife.

Finis,

From what I have read of the proposed rules, my question is this...........What happens if the company decides to have 48 hour layovers instead of 24? My take from reading the proposed rules is that a 48 hour layover would reset your "base" time to where you are laying over and you could now do a 2 man 9 or 10 hour leg each way based on your "local" departure time.

The proposed rules allow 9 hour legs for a "local" base departure between 0500 and 1959 with a 10 hour leg from 0700 to 1259.

Some one please correct me if I'm reading the proposed rules wrong.The following is from the NPRM:

The FAA proposes to permit a carrier to adjust where the flightcrew member
enters the FDP as an acclimated crew member if the individual has been in a new theater

of operations for 72 hours or has been given at least 36 consecutive hours free from duty.

Denny



Edit: You could fly a 9 hour leg over and 10 hour leg back.

The 22.d came out when the AE came out. The Projected Category List and Projected Training List came out on Monday. Check on the Crew Resources & Scheduling page under Category Lists. It's on the far right side about mid way down.

Thank you johnso, last time I checked was Monday before a trip. I guess they posted it right after I logged off. Fly2002