Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 885907)

Buzz, if there is a two day and there are no two day guys they can go to the three day guys and if there are none they go to the four day then four plus day groups.

They will almost never use a guy with more days than a guy with less days avail that is legal for a trip. Only exception is SC pilot.

Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 885732)

Would this apply in the case of one ALPA-represented airline (say, Delta) beating another ALPA-represented airline (say, United) on the merits and, thus, gaining that group's flying?

Or by "in the course of that representation," do you only mean contract negotiations?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 885788)

Carl; Our flying is ours, what the DCI guys do is OUR flying we have allowed to be outsourced and not flow by us. It is therefore completely our right to take the flying we outsourced and have it flown by us. Many of these "regional" carriers do not own any flying, and none have exclusivity like we do with the airline that creates, sells and markets our code. Big difference there.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 885808)

Nor am I referring to the MEC level. I'll wager that if Moak's salary isn't basically cut in half, there will be hell to pay. No housing allowance.. no car... just like all of us.... We don't see that and I personally join the campaign for the removal of national.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 885808)

But basically since you didn't quote what you were referring to, I assumed it was the potential for Moak's success at national. I ran with that assumption.

Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 885877)

As told to me by a crusty old Western guy:
(yes he had the buckle and the boots ;-)

When Western first started going to ORD
An exchange on ORD Ground between United and Western ended with the Western guy keying the mike:

"#%^*-you Marvin, this is between Ground and me."

The rest as they say is history.

Cheers
George

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 885950)

Then get your campaign staff ready. Because this will not happen buddy. Moak saw this incredible honey pot, and now he has the keys to the cash register. A cash register full of our dues money.



I find ACL pretty slippery like that. When you show him something clearly wrong, he will frequently change the focus of the debate or tell you that you misunderstood his original statement. He is frequently "misunderstood". :eek:

Carl