It takes about 18 months from order to airplane. If 2013 is realistic, my earlier posts about fleet renewal were spot on, as were my comments about when the order would be announced and its likely effect on contract negotiations. Still on target for roughly June 21, 2011 around about 10am in Paris. Although that is just a guess.

This announcement was for public consumption. Mr. Anderson has been stressing cap ex discipline to the extent of denying any intent to place orders. But, those who closely follow the investment side of the business will locate upticks in orders at manufacturers like Precision Cast Parts which they will follow to the source. He (and, or, our board) has to start letting the cat out of the bag slowly.

Another guess is that the C Series was engineered around too small a wing and structure. The Airbus is very well positioned.

It is a shame what has happened to Boeing. I would not count the 737 out, but it sounds like it will be passed by in the marketplace. Boeing has drug their feet for too long.

 

Agreed. All I can say is "FUPM". Aircraft decisions will not affect my contract expectations. I'll fly around old 757, MD-88 and DC-9's or brand spanking new 7X7's, AXXX, or C'whatevers. I don't care what they order, not my problem.

I sell pilot services to Delta Air Lines, I will fly whatever plane they ask, all I ask is that Delta Air Lines compensates me in correlation with my skill, ability, and responsibilities.

 

Agreed and I bet is just more negotiating in public. We seem to be good at that.

 

Agreed. It you watch the time shares in the Caribbean you can get one for less than 330 week on short notice. I like that web site.

 

I gotta think somewhere in the deep, hidden offices of Boeing Commercial Aircraft there is a "temporary" slot schedule for 737's beginning in 2013 and Delta's got plenty of space to fill up - if they want it. That's how Boeing has worked in the past...most recent example is American with the massive up-charge in 738 deliveries.

 

So Anybody know if the ATL or DTW base meetings happened?

 

Delta has a something like "preferred buyer" status with Boeing, with "rolling options" all we need to do is give Boeing something like 18 months notice that we want planes, and boom, we're in the pipeline. It came up during the SLI presentations.

Second, I got this off the AP story about this potential order, but I haven't seen this elsewhere:

"CEO Richard Anderson said in a message to employees that Delta pilots will fly the new planes, not feeder carriers. Delta has shifted flying away from feeder carriers, and has gotten rid of more than 70 of its 50-seat regional jets and 25 Saab 340 turboprops. A jet order will give Delta the size of planes it needs "to be able to replace retiring airplanes and have modest growth when the economy and fuel prices support it," Anderson said"

Makes me think that he's positioning that towards the Embraer and Bombardier - and us. Telling us that if aircraft from those companies are ordered, right now it's Delta pilots flying them.

 

Like it is up for debate. Our Section one says so.

 

Well he should be able to considering the monetary investment

 

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