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Originally Posted by UncleSam
(Post 937145)
You did the right thing but they could have said "we need you at 6 AM". As long as they notify you by 3 PM on your last X-day, they can schedule you as early as 5 AM. If they wait until after 3 PM, they can't schedule you before noon (SC @ 10AM).
From "When Scheduling Calls" A reserve pilot must check his schedule and acknowledge a rotation, short-call period, or rest period under two circumstances: 1. Last Non-fl y Day: On his last non-fl y day prior to an on-call day, a reserve pilot must check his schedule between 1500 and 0200 August 2009 29 base time. He may be required to report for a rotation or start short call as early as 0500 base time or start rest as early as 0001 base time, provided Crew Scheduling has placed the duty or rest on his schedule prior to 1500,. If is no duty on his schedule prior to 1500, then he simply becomes a long-call pilot at 0001. :) OK wow thanks, I totally misunderstood the rules! I thought you couldn't be put on short call till 10am! Well I'm glad he changed it. From now on I'll just plan to fly out the night before I guess. |
Originally Posted by Brocc15
(Post 937125)
What would you do?....
Today is an X day and they give you a "courtesy call" that you are on Short call at 6 am. Commuter, JS booked to get to base the next morning, but you are not on long call till midnight tonight and your flight doesn't get you in until 10 ish. Do you: a. Call scheduling and tell them the earliest short call you could do is 10 am since you weren't scheduled to start long call till midnight tonight b. Nothing. They will see you haven't acknowledged at midnight when you start long call. c. Acknowledge and rush to get to the airport tonight so you can be on 6 am long call. I'm just curious. I called scheduling and told them I am on an off day and am commuting in in the morning so I could do a 10 am short call. They switched it, no big deal, but I was wondering if because I called I technically could have been acknowledging and therefore had to rush to the airport tonight anyway? I don't doubt I did the right thing, just wondering what implications I COULD have and maybe will have in the future? I'm a little confused about the contract wording. It is a non issue now, but just wanted to make sure I don't have a completely false idea of what's legal and what's not. I know I'm not required to answer my phone on my X day, but the wording in the contract says I can be converted to short call within 10 hours of scheduling's first attempt to contact me. Does that mean since they made an attempt today even though I am off that I can be on short call early? If they have NOT put SC on your schedule by 1500 Local base time then you start long call at midnight. This means the earliest SC they can assign you is 1000am. Why? Because when on long call you can be converted to SC with only 10 hours notice. However, you can inform them at time of notification that you will use your 2 hour commute, & this way you really have 12 hours because you don't have to be at the airport until 12 noon. They are typically flexible when it comes to SC, even if you fark up your commute. I once had only 1 flight to get me in for my SC. It CXD the night before & I was stuck with no way to get to work in time. I called and confessed, & the scheduler was professional and nice. Offered me to sit a later SC or personal drop. I took the personal drop. They could have the 4 hours of pay for another night at home. :D |
Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
(Post 937122)
We need to change some of our hotels to Hyatt Places! I just stayed one. Really nice hotel. Good internet, inexpensive food, free breakfast, BIG LCD TV's, and overall nice rooms. Plus, the fitness room is well equipped.
Anybody know why we changed hotels in FLL? That was a great location! Somebody told me we're inland now.
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 937128)
I just stayed at one of those as well on a RSW layover. Nice place. I could live in the room they gave me, nice and big.
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
(Post 937148)
OK wow thanks, I totally misunderstood the rules! I thought you couldn't be put on short call till 10am! Well I'm glad he changed it. From now on I'll just plan to fly out the night before I guess.
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
(Post 937148)
OK wow thanks, I totally misunderstood the rules! I thought you couldn't be put on short call till 10am! Well I'm glad he changed it. From now on I'll just plan to fly out the night before I guess.
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
(Post 937148)
OK wow thanks, I totally misunderstood the rules! I thought you couldn't be put on short call till 10am! Well I'm glad he changed it. From now on I'll just plan to fly out the night before I guess.
Brocc, Plan on having to fly out the night before but do exactly what you did and call scheduling to see if they will slip it to 10am. What's the worst that can happen? They say no and you have to go in the night before like you were planning any way. They say ok and you have another night at home. FTB, Congrats and I hope Mrs. FTB is doing well!!!:) Denny |
Originally Posted by UncleSam
(Post 937170)
Many days the SC list is built by noon - 1 PM. You can tell if it is built by checking the list of available pilots for that day. If you don't see any SC assignments, then they haven't done that yet. If you do see SC assignments and you are not one of them, you can usually count on having LC. They could change it at the last minute, but that is very unusual. Don't know when your last commuter flight is that gets you to base, but you can avoid a commute in the night before if you check for this around noon.
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 937174)
Not always true. The Reserve Availability List does list the SC, but only when they update it. Often I've gotten a SC assignment for the next day by 9am, but the RAL doesn't show up with SC until noon or later. It's just when they get around to updating it. I've been assigned SC for the next morning as late the evening before. They only have to give you ten hour notice.
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Originally Posted by UncleSam
(Post 937183)
I understand what you are saying, but this question was about SC assignment for your first day on call. CS must put your SC/trip on your line by 3 PM on the last X-day if the start time is before noon. After you start LC then everything you said applies.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 937109)
I doubt a clean sheet 737/797 would deliver much beyond the 20% that the NEO would. Maybe a few percent, but I'd hardly call that obsolete. Maybe the 797 would have the infinite hull life cycles or whatever, but really does anyone think a brand new 320 with 25-30 years on it is "obsolete"? Its all about the efficiency and operating costs and the NEO will have very comparable operating costs especially when you factor in the better part of an additional decade flying gas guzzlers around waiting for their 797. That is a steep off the books price that is nevertheless built in to the 797. Too little too late IMHO. Until we see next-next gen the difference in efficiency between the 320 NEO and the mythical 797 just won't be that significant and the NEO has the lead big time.
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