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For those of you interested, CNBC will have a special on the airline industry tonight at 9PM

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 937686)

For those of you interested, CNBC will have a special on the airline industry tonight at 9PM

I am sure it will be an Epic piece of television journalism. :rolleyes:

Dont forget to bid...

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Cheers
George

When will they post results?

Do you guys think there is gonna be enough positive movement to prevent displacements off the Maddog B in ATL?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 937489)

I can't believe how many of our pilots are pussies. It's a bad change. We were on a famous beach. Now we're in a shopping plaza. I'm amazed how many of our pilots complained about the FLL layover. There were beautiful women on that beach. There were great bars on that beach. What more do you need? Now our FLL layover is no different than a GRR or FNT layover.

Excellent post.
I think its a small number that complain loudly when their pillow isn't properly fluffed that keep getting us removed from these great locations.

Put us back on the beach!!!

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 937641)

Boeing delivered the 777 in 55 months from launch. If they have learned by their mistakes with the 787 they can easily have a all new aircraft out by 2020. Even if it slipped a few years as long as they have it available for sale before the NEO hits the street it could be a game changer for Boeing.

Boeing delivered the 777 in a timely fashion because they didn't require an entirely new manufacturing process to make the hull and other major compnents. Aluminum is a well known material and much easier to design and build with than composites. Boeing better hoope the learning curve for building with composites is a lot shorter in time than it was with metals. (Think Comet)

When are the AE results coming out:D

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 937750)

Dont forget to bid...

1 more hour

Cheers
George

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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 937664)

Sailing,

I'm headed out the door in a few minutes for a four-day trip. So I don't really have time to properly address your post.

With that said, my recollection is the 757 came out in roughly 1982. The A-320 about five years later and the 737 10 years after that.

Have you ever flown the 737 NG?

When the 757 came out it had electronic circuitry that automatically put the generators on line when the engines were started. Fifteen years later the NG still requires the generators be manually selected. Granted that's one example, but there are plenty.

As I mentioned in my earlier post the 777 came out roughly the same time as the NG. That was an evolutionary aircraft and what 12 or so years later the marketplace is not screaming for a clean-sheet design. They are however screaming (loudly) for a 737 replacement.

Instead of the 737 NG series, what if Boeing had come out with a scaled down 757? I think that would have been world class!

Finally, the 737 is the only aircraft that I can recall on which Delta has taken (several different times) income statement write offs to the tune of tens of millions of dollars to not take delivery of the aircraft.

So Delta would rather lose several million bucks per airplane than operate them. To me anyway, that says a lot.

Sorry I can't respond more thoroughly.

Yes, I have flown the 737NG. As far as income write offs Delta has taken delivery of most of their NG rather then cancel the orders. In fact in the last 2 years we have taken delivery of around 31 NG's. We sold 29 of them at a profit. Its rare to have a aircraft where demand is so strong that instead of canceling orders and paying the penalty you take them and resell them.
As far as aircraft Delta has canceled firm orders and had to pay to do so there have been a lot since I was hired. Off the top of my head the 737G, MD11, 767-400, 777, and MD-90. We might have taken delivery of the 8 777ER's that were canceled in the pay dispute and resold them like we have been doing with the 737.
As far as the overhead panel on the 737 USAIR and SWA pushed Boeing hard for a common type rating. It does not change the basic economics of the aircraft a bit. We just don't like it as pilots.

DAY ROT BLOCK SKED PAY LOG
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT

01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN

RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00

____________________

CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
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BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00

G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00

Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.

Thanks.