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Interesting you have no concern...even though it is within the MEC's authority to bypass the TA process, and give scope away via LOA without MEMRAT.

Carl

There is a little thing called self preservation. Every rep I know whats what is best for the pilots. They all know that if they went and passed a no BS change to section one, or a pay change without MEMRAT they and possibly the association would be in jeopardy.

Also, fwiw, I have no issue with further defining what goes to MEMRAT, but to date no one has written a resolution that correctly addresses that.

acl65pilot

04-02-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 974685)

Executive Vice president of what? Last I checked Lawson was just another line pilot at Comair.

One more thing - JC doesn't hire pilots, Comair does. And Comair does what Delta says, not JC. Comair does not take orders from JC. The seniority resignation rule was Comair's, not ALPAs.

I agree JC's letter makes him sound like a real D-Bag, but I fail to see how he had anything to do with Delta's decision to not place their furloughed pilots at Comair.

But what do I know? I'm just a stupid regional FO stuck at a dead airline.

I will quote you and not Carl or Check since I do not want to go back and find Check's post.

One question Carl and Check:
Who votes on that EVP? Which pilots, and what airlines where they from?

Check Essential

04-02-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 974701)

One question Carl and Check:
Who votes on that EVP? Which pilots, and what airlines where they from?

I have no idea who made him EVP. No time to look it up. The Final Four is on TV.

I'll tell you who didn't have a vote -- the Delta pilots.
You know. The ones who pay the bills.

newKnow

04-02-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 974776)

I have no idea who made him EVP. No time to look it up. The Final Four is on TV.

I'll tell who didn't have a vote -- the Delta pilots.
You know. The ones who pay the bills.

Speaking of the Final Four......

BUTLER!!!!

(No. I didn't pick them to get this far. :D )

acl65pilot

04-02-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 974776)

I have no idea who made him EVP. No time to look it up. The Final Four is on TV.

I'll tell who didn't have a vote -- the Delta pilots.
You know. The ones who pay the bills.

Just like the Comair pilots do not vote for our EVP!

Nosmo King

04-02-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 974791)

Just like the Comair pilots do not vote for our EVP!

I think his point is how much dues money is provided by each group versus the amount of EVP representation.

acl65pilot

04-02-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 974816)

I think his point is how much dues money is provided by each group versus the amount of EVP representation.

Well lets see, all of the majors has a EVP to themselves. OH is currently in a group B with Airtran, Capital Air Cargo, Compass, North American and Spirit. All of those pilot groups have one EVP and we, Delta has a EVP dedicated to ourselves. The four group A EVP's represent the more than half of all ALPA members in good standing. Let me say that again, Four pilots that represent over 23K of the roll call votes(four carriers). The rest of the 34 carriers are represented by five EVP's.

acl65pilot

04-02-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 974816)

I think his point is how much dues money is provided by each group versus the amount of EVP representation.

Should Check get in a tizzy that someone else answered fro him? :D

DAL 88 Driver

04-02-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 974823)

Should Check get in a tizzy that someone else answered fro him? :D

No. Because the person answering was genuinely trying to be helpful and not trying to help make a derogatory point against Check.