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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 941303)
No one wants to see a mainline jet parked. No one.
Point is that using Ed's words he used today, we park those 9's but using that 100 newer jets and those RJ's statement, there is a disconnect there. The airplanes above the 32 possible 70+ seat RJ will have to mainline and more than likely 90's. My point is that there was a major hint given in that release today about the 90. It also adds up to a net gain unless they park 88's and it is at worst case a neutral trade out. My dots connect a few things here, and I refuse to get a helmet fire at this time. |
There were only 116 MD90s ever built and currently only 109 are flying....that includes the 29 Saudi planes with the MD11 avionics. As far as I know, we currently have 19 MD90s actually out on the line. Even if we bought up the entire world fleet, we're not getting '100' more on top of what we already have.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 941307)
Delta's still acquiring < 70 seaters under contract. Reference Republic's 70 seat flying announcement.
IMHO we will see a 100 seat platform configured with whatever seating configuration is allowed. The change can be made overnight with a log entry. The C Series and MRJ are lighter than the airplanes they replace, giving management more flexibility around archaic, poorly considered, scope language. Don't completely count out the CRJ1000 either. Point of my point bar is there are limits and even after the RJET 3announcement they can only get 20 more 70+ seat jets, 32 total. That is a long way from the inferred 100 "newer jets." |
Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
(Post 941310)
You can't do it through the gate agent. It has to be done through the CPSC or scheduling.
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Question, CRJ-100 entered service in 1992, didn't it enter service with Comair around 1992 or 1993? Roughly 18 years let's say.
In that 18 years Southwest with not a sjngle flight outsourced to a regional has made a profit every year. Did we do the same? |
Originally Posted by DelDah Capt
(Post 941318)
There were only 116 MD90s ever built and currently only 109 are flying....that includes the 29 Saudi planes with the MD11 avionics. As far as I know, we currently have 19 MD90s actually out on the line. Even if we bought up the entire world fleet, we're not getting '100' more on top of what we already have.
They can get 20 more 70 seaters and they probably will for a total of 62 airframes. That still leaves 38 more jets (58 without the 20 more allowable RJ's) that would need to be announced to hit that 100 mark Ed made today. Yes? There is not masking that the 70 seater is the 9 replacement, we are talking about overall fleet count from today forward, and jobs that are currently on property. We must look forward. |
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 941323)
Thanks. I swear this was buried in an LOA somewhere, but I didn't know if it was automatic or it had to be manually done by CS.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 941319)
Do you know of a scope sale that our reps do not know about? :D
Point of my point bar is there are limits and even after the RJET 3announcement they can only get 20 more 70+ seat jets, 32 total. That is a long way from the inferred 100 "newer jets." A 70 seater is 92% as good as a 76 seater, maybe better depending on whether you can sell premium seats and seats at convenient times of the day for increased revenue. The CASM is the real limiting factor, not our scope. The way our contract is written, management will chose the best combination of RASM/CASM every time the economics favor the more efficient airplane. A four passenger Eclipse jet would be a factor if it's CASM were competitively low. It's all about the Benjamins. This is nothing new. Guess the only reason it's news is because we were told the RJ was dead. It is continuation of a trend until we fix section 1. |
Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
(Post 941328)
It may be, but I'm not sure. I had to do this a while back, commuting ATL-DTW. I had the JS reserved, but an LCA walked up and got it. Something about a reroute and a line check or something like that. Anyway, he was really apologetic about taking the seat on such short notice. The flight was overbooked, but the CPSC had me positive space in less than 5 minutes. Very helpful.
To paraphrase it says we will not be bumped for payload optimization if we are holding a confirmed JS (ie no walkups.) Additionally, if we are bumped for someone more important, we are to call scheduling for positive space (this applies for a TO WORK reservation only) Thanks guys for the input. Now what are we supposed to do if we are holding for scheduling for 20+ minutes and departure time is nearing?? :p |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 941312)
We're refleeting with airplanes we don't buy, airplanes we don't fly.
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