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Adolphus Coors 02-24-2011 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 953542)
Heyas,

Well, I got the trip drop notice for the OE trip, but they put the 23G5 (or whatever) on my line, which means I'm still on the hook for recovery.

Guess that means I still need to commute up for the regular report time, correct?

Nu

Maybe not.... If you have not been notified of recovery flying "an actual trip" not just 23G5 you are not obligated. Don't answer your phone after the 12 hour mark and you have the week off! If they have attempted to notify you that a trip has been added to your line before the 12 hour mark and you have not acknowledged it they can drop the trip off your line but you will be subject to recovery flying for I believe 3 maybe 6 hours after your original report. No attempt to notify you of a trip 12 hours prior to report equals no obligation.

Boomer 02-24-2011 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 953465)
On a completely different topic, I thought this was an effective advertisement:

Split Decision Thong Bikini - $199.95 : Naughty Suits, Dare to Wear

I could be wrong, but she seems to be wearing that suit inside out. The tag should be on the inside, and there's a "seam" running down the middle.

Check Essential 02-24-2011 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 953465)
Sailing;
I was actually one of the early defenders of JGs language as setting the ground rules. But after reading it over and combining the original language with the CVG base visit and end-of-week memo language, I do not agree with you characterization of how a "screw up" will be handled.

JG specifically says (paraphrased) #1 is a freebie, #2 is a talk with your CP, #3 you are labled as "bad". The language about planning on chronically underperforming flights was especially ridiculous.

I think Flt Ops deserves the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
Here's the simple reason why -- they didn't have to change the policy at all.

I think they are planning on using the "reasonable man" standard.
If you are operating in good faith you will be fine. The 3 strikes thing will not be a factor.
But Flt Ops doesn't want to sit down and codify every exact little variation of what is "reasonable" and what will count as "abusive", etc. etc.

"Abusing the policy" is going to be like the Supreme Court definition of pornography - can't define it exactly, but you know it when you see it.

The Chief Pilots are used to dealing with the "problem child" pilots.
This is no different. If you are a straight shooter just trying to get to work then you don't have anything to worry about. If you go in there and pi$$ on their shoes and try to tell them its raining, then things are going to escalate.

maddogmax 02-24-2011 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 953637)
I think Flt Ops deserves the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
Here's the simple reason why -- they didn't have to change the policy at all.

I think they are planning on using the "reasonable man" standard.
If you are operating in good faith you will be fine. The 3 strikes thing will not be a factor.
But Flt Ops doesn't want to sit down and codify every exact little variation of what is "reasonable" and what will count as "abusive", etc. etc.

"Abusing the policy" is going to be like the Supreme Court definition of pornography - can't define it exactly, but you know it when you see it.

The Chief Pilots are used to dealing with the "problem child" pilots.
This is no different. If you are a straight shooter just trying to get to work then you don't have anything to worry about. If you go in there and pi$$ on their shoes and try to tell them its raining, then things are going to escalate.

Agree. The entire time NWA had this policy, I never heard of anyone being called on the carpet for abusing the policy, as long as they played by the rules, no matter how many times they had to use it. As a 25yr commuter I ALMOST had to use it once and thats with the last 5 yrs or so being all CRJ's.

johnso29 02-24-2011 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by volav8r1 (Post 953533)
Is this the same guy who was a MEM DC-9 check airman? If so he was a great guy; really friendly and outgoing. I always enjoyed flying with him. I heard a rumor that he had heart trouble and was no longer flying but never heard the details.

Yes, that's him.

Razor 02-24-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 953487)
BW is a great guy and i was shocked to hear about this when it happened as he was relatively young but i'm glad he's doing well now!

He says he should be heading back to the line soon. Amazing!

Sink r8 02-24-2011 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 953604)
I could be wrong, but she seems to be wearing that suit inside out. The tag should be on the inside, and there's a "seam" running down the middle.

This is a forum for working airline pilots.

You're looking for Inflight Central > Supervisor's Corner > Strictly Guy Talk > Fashion Faux Pas.

Check Essential 02-24-2011 12:05 PM

$200 bucks for a bikini ?!

OK, but that thing better make my wife look like a Sports Illustrated cover girl.

satchip 02-24-2011 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 953776)
$200 bucks for a bikini ?!

OK, but that thing better make my wife look like a Sports Illustrated cover girl.

Yours doesn't? Sucks to be you.:D

Check Essential 02-24-2011 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 953776)
$200 bucks for a bikini ?!

OK, but that thing better make my wife look like a Sports Illustrated cover girl.


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 953778)
Yours doesn't? Sucks to be you.:D

Well then satch-
You've got our attention.
Now you're gonna have to post a picture of your wife! :D:D


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