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NuGuy 03-10-2011 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 961852)
Some of our fellow pilots will recommend you apply elsewhere like Southwest.

Yea, I noticed that. "If you don't like it, quit"...That's usually something you hear from a right-wing, union busting management type blathering on Faux News, and not from a good "trade unionist".

Truth be told, there's a lot of the SWA contract I don't want, and yet someone seems sold on the idea that pay rates is what it's all about. Not a whole lot of surprise, seeing as it's coming from the same group chorusing "you guys are getting a huge raise" during the merger...which turned out to be not really true.

In the past, most contract surveys I've been sent have included a really nice grid outlining all the important contract points...scope, compensation, hours of service, retirement, medical, etc... and a comparison with all of the other "peer" airlines.

It will be REALLY interesting to see who is considered our peers with the survey for 2012, if any.

Nu

capncrunch 03-10-2011 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 961809)
I've been commuting on comair a lot lately, and it has been awful. Havent been out or in on time in over a month. When chatting with the crew the terrible attitude is right out there for every one to see. I'm sure it's hard for those guys to have a good attitude with all their shrinkage, but sarcastic PAs are not the answer.

What kind of PAs are you hearing? Asking cause I'm curious.

NuGuy 03-10-2011 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 961881)
What kind of PAs are you hearing? Asking cause I'm curious.

Way back in the bad days I heard one along the lines of "We know you have a choice in bankrupt airlines these days, and we appreciate you choosing ours"

Nu

LandGreen2 03-10-2011 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 961865)
Yea, I noticed that. "If you don't like it, quit"...That's usually something you hear from a right-wing, union busting management type blathering on Faux News, and not from a good "trade unionist".

Truth be told, there's a lot of the SWA contract I don't want, and yet someone seems sold on the idea that pay rates is what it's all about. Not a whole lot of surprise, seeing as it's coming from the same group chorusing "you guys are getting a huge raise" during the merger...which turned out to be not really true.

In the past, most contract surveys I've been sent have included a really nice grid outlining all the important contract points...scope, compensation, hours of service, retirement, medical, etc... and a comparison with all of the other "peer" airlines.

It will be REALLY interesting to see who is considered our peers with the survey for 2012, if any.

Nu

Well...I think PG, or one of the other ALPA-rah-rah guys already commented that SWA is not a peer that we can compare ourselves to, nor are any of the cargo carriers. I guess DAL can afford to fly a/c without pax and cargo these days!:rolleyes:

tsquare 03-10-2011 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 961771)
I am so glad that Tsquare is up to the task at the next meeting. Thanks T!

GO VOLS!




:D


Thanks for the GO VOLS... and I have my own controversial questions that I'm gonna bring up... maybe not to RA.. but they will get noticed... :)

iceman49 03-10-2011 03:43 PM

RA is a big boy, he used to have no problems answering controversial questions, the blow back will not come from him... go for it.

tsquare 03-10-2011 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 961944)
RA is a big boy, he used to have no problems answering controversial questions, the blow back will not come from him... go for it.


Momma's children were ugly.. not stupid.... :D

forgot to bid 03-10-2011 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 961852)
This is why I don't pick up green slips as a fellow commuter. I wouldn't recommend saying anything bad about our contract on this board. Some of our fellow pilots will recommend you apply elsewhere like Southwest.

They only said that because SWAPA negotiated a contract that pays more and has better work rules and super strong scope and an airline that succeeded in running its competitors into chapter 11... wait... ya know, maybe the best answer would be "stick with us guys and goddesses cuz we've got a lot that needs a fixin and we're rollin out magic, bro. *****in focus. all wins. contract 2012, it'll be like being on a space ship to the moon."

maddogmax 03-10-2011 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 961944)
RA is a big boy, he used to have no problems answering controversial questions, the blow back will not come from him... go for it.

I will ask him anything. Getting ready to retire anyway.

forgot to bid 03-10-2011 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 961908)
Thanks for the GO VOLS... and I have my own controversial questions that I'm gonna bring up... maybe not to RA.. but they will get noticed... :)

Tsquare: "... and I just wanted to hear your answer to that."

tepid applause, shock fills the room. SD and EB stand slack-jawed. Maddogmax screams "WINNING!"

RA: "Sir, I can't believe anyone would ever say that..."

Silence. All eyes on Tsquare.

Tsquare: "underboob."

RA: "I'm sorry say that again?"

Tsquare: "uh, boobs."

hmmm... i dont think i should ever go to a 'meeting'. I mean in person I can't google a dictionary, correct use and spelling of idioms or post pictures.


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