Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-12-2011 | 07:32 AM
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03-12-2011 | 07:34 AM
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What they fail to factor is that the Moon compounded for x years may equal the Moon and Stars by the time you get just Alpha Centauri.
03-12-2011 | 07:40 AM
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I have no idea. It all depends on the environment in which you are negotiating, the competition, and other factors. I just have a feeling that there is a segment of the pilot population that if the TA came back with the Moon, the would demand the Stars too.
What they fail to factor is that the Moon compounded for x years may equal the Moon and Stars by the time you get just Alpha Centauri.
What they fail to factor is that the Moon compounded for x years may equal the Moon and Stars by the time you get just Alpha Centauri.
03-12-2011 | 08:09 AM
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03-12-2011 | 08:17 AM
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03-12-2011 | 08:47 AM
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Remember, the more people on the list closer to retirement, the fewer people who have a long term interest in the group.
03-12-2011 | 09:05 AM
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03-12-2011 | 09:14 AM
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If we sell even more of our future down the river for a cookie, it will be because plenty of us collectively in the middle and bottom went along with it.
UCAL is as or more top heavy in that demographic than we are and they are (so far) pushing hard for scope reversals (RJ's and JV's). SWA has its share of that demographic too and they turned down money for better scope.
There is hope. But if we shart the bed going after some bling like the ghost of contracts past, it will be because the middle and bottom went along with it.
03-12-2011 | 11:19 AM
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For what job? of course now that you have stated a number... how about $132.50? maybe $130.... oh, and reserves have to sit 8 SC days a month... and hard time only? and........
Point is.. and somebody else said it better than I could, but when the TA comes out in 2015, read all the sections OTHER than section 3... then if you like what you read, see how much they are gonna pay you...
Point is.. and somebody else said it better than I could, but when the TA comes out in 2015, read all the sections OTHER than section 3... then if you like what you read, see how much they are gonna pay you...
I agree with your second paragraph, you may have misunderstood my point. I don't care what Sec. 3 says(well I do, but not until the end).....Getting a W-2 that exceeds the current top tier (UPS/FDX/SWA) with more days off, regardless of aircraft type flown or on reserve or as a lineholder, it should be everyones' goal to achieve wholesale gains, with NO givebacks of any kind.
To the current topic......I doubt a TA will come out that is super heavy $$$ on the top 15% of the list. Not only would that fail Memrat due to the middle and junior, the company wants a deal that will pass, and they know as well as anyone that you have to make 50.1% happy, and trying to hose scope/workrules for a retirement bone won't hit that magic number.
03-12-2011 | 11:48 AM
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This should be a paramount concern for us, especially going into out next contract. Essentially it will be whipsawing the pilot group from the top end.
If the Sky Team group is eventually allowed to spin off an Alter-Ego Airline that very well could be the demise of the Airlines.
If the Sky Team group is eventually allowed to spin off an Alter-Ego Airline that very well could be the demise of the Airlines.
I don't know to what extent we can influrence carriers joining SkyTeam (I suspect we have little leverage), but we certainly have language concerning JV's and mergers. We're not far from the point where a work stoppage at any airline within Skyteam becomes irrelevant.
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