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Old 03-19-2011, 06:51 PM
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BBC is reporting US just launched Tomahwaks @ Libya.

I got yer freakin cruise missiles right here!






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Old 03-19-2011, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Actually, it is better for Bombardier is a US Mainline carrier signed and order and then took deliver. Then they would not have to concern themselves' with a pesky scope clause.
Maybe Bedford is betting the farm that Scope Clauses will not be a factor when he gets his first C-series in 2015?
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:10 PM
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Maybe Bedford is betting the farm that Scope Clauses will not be a factor when he gets his first C-series in 2015?
More likely these are replacement jets for Frontier / Midwest and part of his strategy to have his own brand as a hedge against fee for departure contracts which reply on the health and inclination of the major partner.
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:16 PM
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Where did Kaddafi get his super premium wide body captain uniform? I thought those were strictly controlled.
Did he get promoted to 5 stripe Captain already?
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
More likely these are replacement jets for Frontier / Midwest and part of his strategy to have his own brand as a hedge against fee for departure contracts which reply on the health and inclination of the major partner.
Absolutely. But which is Plan A and which is Plan B?

Are Frontier's Airbusesses old enough to require replacement in 4 years, even if the C-series sips fuel?
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
Maybe Bedford is betting the farm that Scope Clauses will not be a factor when he gets his first C-series in 2015?
I think he's betting the farm that either scope is relaxed (outsourced Lorenzo Air Group pilot whipsaw, willingly, with SJS on roids) or he gets some lame "everyone in Wall Street is an infantile moronic idiot and won't catch on to this basic accounting trickery of putting yourself on the hook long term for debt but not calling it debt and investors thinking you have no debt" wet lease from mainline ( even with mainline pilots) or he gets to fly them with his Air Group pilots while legacy airlines continue to fluff his large plane coffers with the 70-76 seat gravy train subsidy program.

Let us pray. Dear Baby Jesus, doing yer primary flight trainin', learnin' bout chur E6B, we thank ya fer our many outsource agreements; please forgive our low ballin', as we forgive those who low ball against us; although we fly through the valley of branded flyin', we fear no scope clause, as thy whipsaw and thy shiny jet syndrome, they comfort us; give us this day our daily scope relief, for thine is the kingdom and the power of the race to the bottom, ah-mens.
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:31 PM
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Did he get promoted to 5 stripe Captain already?
He's an 8-stripe... 4 on each side.

He doesn't even need a flashlight to preflight static wicks in broad daylight.
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:35 PM
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please forgive our low ballin', as we forgive those who low ball against us
Hey! As a Comair guy, I resent that!
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
More likely these are replacement jets for Frontier / Midwest and part of his strategy to have his own brand as a hedge against fee for departure contracts which reply on the health and inclination of the major partner.
Continental Express, Coex, or XJT or Expressjet, whatever the kids call it these days, showed the wave of the future when it entered in with that deal with Delta didn't it?

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Absolutely. But which is Plan A and which is Plan B?

Are Frontier's Airbusesses old enough to require replacement in 4 years, even if the C-series sips fuel?
Well, Frontier scrapped a 6 year old Airbus A318 back in 2009. I thought I once saw the picture but I can't find it, here is a thread google returned for me. So all that to say, who the heck knows. You could probably scrap their A318s and make more money selling the parts then trying to sell the planes while the 319s and 320s can come on over to us. We love used planes.

Sad Day---New Airbus 318 Being Scrapped! — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net

Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
He's an 8-stripe... 4 on each side.

He doesn't even need a flashlight to preflight static wicks in broad daylight.
Boomer fits right in.

8 stripe. Oh 'shmack'. I think I know 8 stripers.

Did I spell that right? Did I just say I know 8 exotic dancers or just people who think they're 2x a Captain? Let me go google.

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Old 03-19-2011, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon View Post
If they didn't have a bunch of new ER B types sitting at home getting paid, they might have enough folks to do the trips. Oh well,, back the hoops.
Frankly, pilots are always sitting at home on full pay waiting for TOE. Sometimes it is a few weeks and other times it is a few months. We will constantly have a large training footprint with an airline this large. We as a company just need to learn to accept it. What we have not is small potatoes compared to what we will see when the retirements kick in.
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