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Old 03-25-2011 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
It's really your fault, really. Not to be redundant but it deserves to be repeated over and over... and over.

Once you pull that chariot up to the gate Newk, leader of the Fly DC Jets congregation, and they know you're there, they're not going to want you to leave.

It's really a complement that you're late. A complement to you.

So maybe if you'd just stay in the cockpit and keep to yourself and don't open that door, the plane will get out on time?

Otherwise, once they sense the Newk is there, all hell breaks loose.


NEWSFLASH!

I got out of Atlanta on time, not once, but twice today! Things are looking up.
Old 03-25-2011 | 10:14 PM
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I was about to post on here if that was newK with the deferred APU on D concourse this evening. I should have known (knewn?) better.

ATL has been a machine for me lately. 2 weeks and not a single flight that didnt make D0.
Old 03-25-2011 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I was about to post on here if that was newK with the deferred APU on D concourse this evening. I should have known (knewn?) better.

ATL has been a machine for me lately. 2 weeks and not a single flight that didnt make D0.
I knew I should have texted to see if you were working. But, between the aircraft change and bad reception underground while waiting for the train, I didn't have time.

D concourse? Yes. No deferred APU though, but close.
Old 03-25-2011 | 10:58 PM
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What's 44TR and 44WD mean on the wide report? Or better yet, where can I find a "key" that explains ALL the codes that show up on the bid reports?
Thanks!
Old 03-26-2011 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
What's 44TR and 44WD mean on the wide report? Or better yet, where can I find a "key" that explains ALL the codes that show up on the bid reports?
Thanks!
I think 44 is 73n school.
Old 03-26-2011 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm curious what is in a DOT Form 41 (T2 and P-5.2) document. The only thing I see is you download an adobe $700 program and you can see the free download from the DOT.

https://1bts.rita.dot.gov/pdc/user/p...SC,%204%20DESC

I look at those numbers and this is what I wonder, are the numbers skewed because of the extremely small size of the MD90 fleet? Such as we only have 16 aircraft in the fleet of 600 with those particular engines. I realize that the fuel burn of the 738 and 90 are almost identical so once the seating is identical then they should be very similar CASM in fuel numbers alone right?

And this is before we talk acquisition prices which I take it is not included in these numbers? Otherwise it'd be more economical to dump every 88/90/9/737/738 and order 320s as a replacement.
The most current data I have is the 12 month period ending September 2010.

Here are some highlights:

----------738-----MD90-----MD88-----320
BH Cost--$3765---$3795----$3850-----$3394
Gal/Hr----787-----795-------896-------806
Stage----1180----806-------613-------1124
CASM----6.7------7.3-------8.9--------6.0

Of note is that the MD90 data is for 17 a/c all with 150 seats.

Also, the 319 CASM is 8.3 vs the 737-7 at 6.8. Crew cost make up almost 1 cent of that differences. IMO the 320 CASM data iserroneous due to accounting issues between it and the 319.

A little off topic but if there was ever a no brainier here it is:
Similar Aircraft Comparisons Chart
This mod would make the whole MD fleet about the same efficiency.
Old 03-26-2011 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Replace the 88/90 fleet with 320's, the 757 fleet with 321's, order more 330's, ditch the 787 for the 350, and you would save TON's of cash due to fleet commonality and training costs. Whether you love or hate Airbus, you have to admit they know what they are doing when it comes to providing a product that can reduce costs for an airline that needs more than one fleet type.

... and then you would have one company (Airbus) that would be able to hold DAL hostage because they are an exclusive customer. Competition.. it's not just for cold war superpowers anymore.
Old 03-26-2011 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
My take is this:

Those CASM are raw data and not adjusted for stage length
My guess is that the chart has numbers for the purchased new MD90s.
No way were they under $30M brand new. The "previously owned" MD90s we're getting are all in $10M. that would put the new MD90s right around $0.06. Adjust for 160 seats and the number goes

If you're going to order new jets it's obvious which ones the company will buy. The numbers also bear out why the A321 with sharklets will have the super-low CASMs when it becomes available late next year.

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If the 321 replaces the 757, will the pay rate also be replaced, ala more lower paying and fewer higher paying seats (lowering the CASM)? If so, that's one reason for a LGP system. No idea.
Old 03-26-2011 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
... and then you would have one company (Airbus) that would be able to hold DAL hostage because they are an exclusive customer. Competition.. it's not just for cold war superpowers anymore.
My thoughts as well. What if some type of common component was considered faulty for example, thereby grounding the entire fleet for a period of time? I would think you would want to maintain some sort of leverage over an OEM by not having an exclusive relationship. When you say "I do" then the chasing each other around naked with swim fins on stops (or so I've heard )
Old 03-26-2011 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
My thoughts as well. What if some type of common component was considered faulty for example, thereby grounding the entire fleet for a period of time? I would think you would want to maintain some sort of leverage over an OEM by not having an exclusive relationship. When you say "I do" then the chasing each other around naked with swim fins on stops (or so I've heard )
The government won't do that. In the mid 90's, the 737 should have and deserved to be grounded due to a faulty rudder. That would have grounded everyone's favorite low cost carrier (yes they were a lcc back then). It didn't happen.
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