Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-26-2011 | 08:38 AM
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) work, that will make a 320 a year round transcon airplane.As a pax I love the Bus. It is way more comfortable than the 737.
03-26-2011 | 08:41 AM
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Thanks, ACL. I understand that. In all the commuting I did on those things between LIT-ATL, which off the top of head I'm thinking is not a lot shorter than PIT-ATL, I've seen them go out with a couple of empty seats for weight and balance. Just never seen 6 empty seats for that. Sounds like it's possible from what you guys are telling me. Anyway, it's not a big deal... I just thought it was odd and I was curious. I appreciate everyone's insight. I think my wife's friend (ex-friend? 
) now understands why we tried so hard to talk her out of using a buddy pass! 
) now understands why we tried so hard to talk her out of using a buddy pass!
03-26-2011 | 08:43 AM
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jetBlue has been clamoring for real winglets for years and they're still not here. They called the current ones "ornamental." If the sharklets (really?) work, that will make a 320 a year round transcon airplane.
As a pax I love the Bus. It is way more comfortable than the 737.
) work, that will make a 320 a year round transcon airplane.As a pax I love the Bus. It is way more comfortable than the 737.
"The addition of Sharklets to the Airbus A320 wings should cut aircraft fuel burn by 3.5%"
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ng-market.html
"For the time being, the Airbus model appears to have the edge, said Richard Aboulafia, a vice president at aviation researcher Teal Group Corp.
“It’s a bigger tube,” said Aboulafia, referring to the wider fuselage of the A321. “That’s good for passenger comfort. The A321 does look very-well placed.”
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03-26-2011 | 08:47 AM
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Thanks, ACL. I understand that. In all the commuting I did on those things between LIT-ATL, which off the top of head I'm thinking is not a lot shorter than PIT-ATL, I've seen them go out with a couple of empty seats for weight and balance. Just never seen 6 empty seats for that. Sounds like it's possible from what you guys are telling me. Anyway, it's not a big deal... I just thought it was odd and I was curious. I appreciate everyone's insight. I think my wife's friend (ex-friend? ) now understands why we tried so hard to talk her out of using a buddy pass!
) now understands why we tried so hard to talk her out of using a buddy pass!
03-26-2011 | 08:54 AM
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Yeah, I carried a jumpseater from PNS to ATL a few years ago who was using us as his backup flight after he couldn't get on a 50 seat CRJ for weight restrictions. It was a beautiful, VFR day all over the Southeast, including both ATL and PNS.
03-26-2011 | 08:57 AM
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FWIW... we've been ordered NOT to "crunch" numbers any more, due to the delay game. If the agent asks us if we can carry more folks, we are supposed to tell them to ask control.
Why? Probably because when we're short on time and trying to get folks on, many gate agents put the delay on crew after we attempt to accommodate them and the pax. Since the company wants to avoid delays, we just leave the answer to control. If the flight says weight restricted 45 pax / 1470 bags, that's probably what we'll go with at most.
Unfortunate that it has come to this to ensure we don't get dinged for performance, but that's the nature of the beast I suppose.
Why? Probably because when we're short on time and trying to get folks on, many gate agents put the delay on crew after we attempt to accommodate them and the pax. Since the company wants to avoid delays, we just leave the answer to control. If the flight says weight restricted 45 pax / 1470 bags, that's probably what we'll go with at most.
Unfortunate that it has come to this to ensure we don't get dinged for performance, but that's the nature of the beast I suppose.
03-26-2011 | 09:10 AM
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Another issue with the type was the flaps tending to fail extended on missed approaches due to contaminants fouling the torque drive. The FAA was requiring dispatch using fuel burns to the alternate with the flaps down. Wonder how all that worked out? Alternate fuel figured at flaps 40 would be a bunch or weight on a landing weight limited airplane.
I had also hear our scope seat restrictions worked out well from management's perspective because it made the jet less weight limited.
I had also hear our scope seat restrictions worked out well from management's perspective because it made the jet less weight limited.
03-26-2011 | 09:18 AM
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I wonder the same thing myself... I have never really understood how we leave pax behind on an oversold flight that isn't weight restricted. Agent will tell us "oh we've got 53 people trying to get on this flight", and we'll end up leaving with 44... where did the other 9 people go?
03-26-2011 | 09:23 AM
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A possible sign that the DAL might be hiring this year? 
FltOps.com: Pilot Job Fairs
"Delta Air Lines
- Delta requests to meet a maximum of 275 pilots who meet its minimum qualifications, including the four-year college degree. Pilots must be active on airlineapps.com.
Rep: Capt. Arnie Kraby, Manager - Pilot Selection
Rep: Brian Bolt, Manager of Fleet Common Programs
Rep: Capt. Greg Mazyck & F/O Chris Jones
Rep: Beth Poole, Manager – Flying Operations
Rep: Dianna Carter, Coordinator - Flying Operations
FltOps.com: Pilot Job Fairs
"Delta Air Lines
- Delta requests to meet a maximum of 275 pilots who meet its minimum qualifications, including the four-year college degree. Pilots must be active on airlineapps.com.
Rep: Capt. Arnie Kraby, Manager - Pilot Selection
Rep: Brian Bolt, Manager of Fleet Common Programs
Rep: Capt. Greg Mazyck & F/O Chris Jones
Rep: Beth Poole, Manager – Flying Operations
Rep: Dianna Carter, Coordinator - Flying Operations
03-26-2011 | 09:38 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
I wonder the same thing myself... I have never really understood how we leave pax behind on an oversold flight that isn't weight restricted. Agent will tell us "oh we've got 53 people trying to get on this flight", and we'll end up leaving with 44... where did the other 9 people go?
+ nine * $400 "Delta Dollars" (hit to future revenue)
+ vouchers
+ maybe a hotel room
+ cost of revenue standby handling and potential for multi day snowball effect
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Costs the regional vendor does not pay
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