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Buzz, this one's for you....
Richard said that codeshare partner Alaska Airlines’s move to Terminal 6 at LAX to be closer to Delta’s operation there will make it easier for customers to connect between the airlines. He also said that Delta is investing in construction work at LAX in Terminals 5 and 6.
“You are going to continue to see that investment in Los Angeles,” he said. “With all of our partners including Alaska and all of our SkyTeam partners we have the No. 1 position in L.A., and we are focused on growing it.”
Lets hope its on our metal. I just tried to get a buddy pass for my sister to fly from SEA-LAX. EVERY flight is on Delta*----operated by Alaska.

Richard said that codeshare partner Alaska Airlines’s move to Terminal 6 at LAX to be closer to Delta’s operation there will make it easier for customers to connect between the airlines. He also said that Delta is investing in construction work at LAX in Terminals 5 and 6.
“You are going to continue to see that investment in Los Angeles,” he said. “With all of our partners including Alaska and all of our SkyTeam partners we have the No. 1 position in L.A., and we are focused on growing it.”
Lets hope its on our metal. I just tried to get a buddy pass for my sister to fly from SEA-LAX. EVERY flight is on Delta*----operated by Alaska.


I, too, hope its our metal. I've been flying some LAX-SFO turn stuff, which is kinda fun. However, we just added LAX-SAN and LAX-SMF but Skywest is flying that stuff. Other then that, all the north-south west coast stuff is Alaska under the code share.
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Lyrics for Delta Lena's new video "AE Bid Day"
6am, waking up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
Seein’ everything, the time is goin’
Tickin’ on and on, everybody’s rushin’
Gotta log in to iCrew
Gotta bid the airbus, get off the niiiine
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
iCrew is down on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Mac OS won't login (Yeah)
Windows is still crashin' (Yeah)
C, P, S, C
Lookin’ forward to the AE
9:45, we’re flyin'on the airway
Cruisin’ so fast, I want time to fly
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I bid this, you bid this
My checkride is tonight
I bid this, you bid this
Now you know it
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Going to the Boeing (Yeah)
Bidding off the Mad Dog (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to the AE
Yesterday was short call, short call
Today i-is Bid day, Bid day
We-we-we so excited
We so excited
We gonna have a block someday
Tomorrow is SPOT day
And LOFT comes after…wards
I don’t want this AE to end
[Rap Verse]
A-E, Advance Entitlement
So chillin’ in the left seat (In the left seat)
In the right seat (In the right seat)
I’m flyin’, cruisin’ (Yeah, yeah)
Fast lanes, switchin’ planes
Wit’ a MCRib and my Airside (Woo!)
(C’mon) Passin’ by is a airbus in front of me
Makes tick tock, tick tock, wanna scream
Check my time, it’s Bid day, it’s a AE
We gonna have fun, c’mon, c’mon, y’all
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Prayin' for a schedule (Yeah)
Waitin' for conversion (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to conversion day
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Training done by CD(Yeah)
Don't wanna leave the hotel(Yeah)
Sim, sim, sim, sim
Lookin’ forward to the IOE
6am, waking up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
Seein’ everything, the time is goin’
Tickin’ on and on, everybody’s rushin’
Gotta log in to iCrew
Gotta bid the airbus, get off the niiiine
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
iCrew is down on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Mac OS won't login (Yeah)
Windows is still crashin' (Yeah)
C, P, S, C
Lookin’ forward to the AE
9:45, we’re flyin'on the airway
Cruisin’ so fast, I want time to fly
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I bid this, you bid this
My checkride is tonight
I bid this, you bid this
Now you know it
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Going to the Boeing (Yeah)
Bidding off the Mad Dog (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to the AE
Yesterday was short call, short call
Today i-is Bid day, Bid day
We-we-we so excited
We so excited
We gonna have a block someday
Tomorrow is SPOT day
And LOFT comes after…wards
I don’t want this AE to end
[Rap Verse]
A-E, Advance Entitlement
So chillin’ in the left seat (In the left seat)
In the right seat (In the right seat)
I’m flyin’, cruisin’ (Yeah, yeah)
Fast lanes, switchin’ planes
Wit’ a MCRib and my Airside (Woo!)
(C’mon) Passin’ by is a airbus in front of me
Makes tick tock, tick tock, wanna scream
Check my time, it’s Bid day, it’s a AE
We gonna have fun, c’mon, c’mon, y’all
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Prayin' for a schedule (Yeah)
Waitin' for conversion (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to conversion day
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Training done by CD(Yeah)
Don't wanna leave the hotel(Yeah)
Sim, sim, sim, sim
Lookin’ forward to the IOE
Lyrics for Delta Lena's new video "AE Bid Day"
6am, waking up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
Seein’ everything, the time is goin’
Tickin’ on and on, everybody’s rushin’
Gotta log in to iCrew
Gotta bid the airbus, get off the niiiine
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
iCrew is down on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Mac OS won't login (Yeah)
Windows is still crashin' (Yeah)
C, P, S, C
Lookin’ forward to the AE
9:45, we’re flyin'on the airway
Cruisin’ so fast, I want time to fly
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I bid this, you bid this
My checkride is tonight
I bid this, you bid this
Now you know it
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Going to the Boeing (Yeah)
Bidding off the Mad Dog (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to the AE
Yesterday was short call, short call
Today i-is Bid day, Bid day
We-we-we so excited
We so excited
We gonna have a block someday
Tomorrow is SPOT day
And LOFT comes after…wards
I don’t want this AE to end
[Rap Verse]
A-E, Advance Entitlement
So chillin’ in the left seat (In the left seat)
In the right seat (In the right seat)
I’m flyin’, cruisin’ (Yeah, yeah)
Fast lanes, switchin’ planes
Wit’ a MCRib and my Airside (Woo!)
(C’mon) Passin’ by is a airbus in front of me
Makes tick tock, tick tock, wanna scream
Check my time, it’s Bid day, it’s a AE
We gonna have fun, c’mon, c’mon, y’all
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Prayin' for a schedule (Yeah)
Waitin' for conversion (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to conversion day
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Training done by CD(Yeah)
Don't wanna leave the hotel(Yeah)
Sim, sim, sim, sim
Lookin’ forward to the IOE
6am, waking up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
Seein’ everything, the time is goin’
Tickin’ on and on, everybody’s rushin’
Gotta log in to iCrew
Gotta bid the airbus, get off the niiiine
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
iCrew is down on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Mac OS won't login (Yeah)
Windows is still crashin' (Yeah)
C, P, S, C
Lookin’ forward to the AE
9:45, we’re flyin'on the airway
Cruisin’ so fast, I want time to fly
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I bid this, you bid this
My checkride is tonight
I bid this, you bid this
Now you know it
Kickin’ in the left seat
Sittin’ in the right seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I hold?
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Logging in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Going to the Boeing (Yeah)
Bidding off the Mad Dog (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to the AE
Yesterday was short call, short call
Today i-is Bid day, Bid day
We-we-we so excited
We so excited
We gonna have a block someday
Tomorrow is SPOT day
And LOFT comes after…wards
I don’t want this AE to end
[Rap Verse]
A-E, Advance Entitlement
So chillin’ in the left seat (In the left seat)
In the right seat (In the right seat)
I’m flyin’, cruisin’ (Yeah, yeah)
Fast lanes, switchin’ planes
Wit’ a MCRib and my Airside (Woo!)
(C’mon) Passin’ by is a airbus in front of me
Makes tick tock, tick tock, wanna scream
Check my time, it’s Bid day, it’s a AE
We gonna have fun, c’mon, c’mon, y’all
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Prayin' for a schedule (Yeah)
Waitin' for conversion (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin’ forward to conversion day
It’s Bid day, Bid day
Gotta log in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE, AE
Bid day, Bid day
Loggin' in on Bid day
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the AE
Training done by CD(Yeah)
Don't wanna leave the hotel(Yeah)
Sim, sim, sim, sim
Lookin’ forward to the IOE

NOSMO, that's *****in man! Great job!
Now if you could just get 80 to sing it...


I was cheering for Tiger. I'm sorry, Tiger is the only guy I recognize out there. He might be a scumbag, but oh the drama would be so entertaining and after the bashing he took about his game this week it'd be fun to hear people eat their words. But so would have a 10 man -10 playoff have been entertaining!

Ah, Tiger's wife... I think of that Jim Carrey movie "liar liar" where his ex-wife says "when we were married I wasn't having sex half as much as you were". I don't think Tiger's wife could say "half as much", I think we're dealing here with smaller fractions.
Last edited by forgot to bid; 04-11-2011 at 02:19 AM.
In laymen’s "FTB" terms:
According to Check's definition he presented: A single transportation system exists when there is a substantial integration of operations, financial control, and labor and personnel functions and a substantial degree of overlapping ownership, senior management, and BOD’s. However, as in the US Airways case substantial integration of operations does not require total integration of operations.
How can you not say RAH's CHQ and Shuttle America who does flying for us under a CPA does not meet the definition of a STS? And therefore as a STS they're not allowed to operate the aircraft we permit in the PWA for DCI (their CHQ E145s and Shuttle E170/175s) because they have aircraft that are not permitted (99 seat E190s and 120-162 seat A318/319/320s) which do not qualify for any exemptions under the PWA 1.D, right?
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
*A capacity purchase agreement (CPA) is where Delta purchases all or a portion of a carriers capacity and is responsible for selling the seat inventory that they purchase. The revenue proration agreement (RPA) is where Delta earns a fixed dollar or percentage of revenues for tickets sold to passengers on connecting flight itineraries.
Delta has CPA’s with: ASA and Skywest which are both subsidiaries of Skywest. Chautauqua and Shuttle America which are both subsidiaries of RAH. Compass which is a subsidiary of TSA. And Pinnacle and Mesaba which are both subsidiaries of Pinnacle Airline Corp. Delta has a revenue proration agreement with some of Skywest’s flying and American Eagle for a few routes out of LAX.
All flying performed by or for Delta will be performed by Delta pilots in accordance with the PWA [PWA 1.C.1] unless it is a Delta Connection carrier flying an aircraft that is permitted or is flying done by foreign carriers, Continental Airlines, Alaska Airlines and Hawaii Airlines in accordance with the PWA. [PWA 1.D.1]
Permitted aircraft are 50 seat RJs and 255 51-76 seaters of which no more than 120 can be 71-76 seaters. That 120 number can increase with pre-merger DAL mainline fleet growth or decrease to 85 if the flow is cancelled. All of those 120 76 seaters can also have their seating capacity reduced to 70 seats if a pre-9/11 mainline pilot is furloughed. [PWA 1.B.40]
If, however, a Delta Connection carrier under a CPA* or RPA* flying permitted aircraft then acquires an aircraft that is not permitted then Delta will terminate such operations and will need to do so either by the date that non-permitted aircraft entered revenue service or 9 months from the date that Delta became aware of the potential acquisition, whichever comes later. [PWA 1.D.2.C]
However, a Delta Connection carrier on a CPA or RPA may fly both permitted and non-permitted aircraft if the non-permitted flying is not performed for Delta, there is no reduction in Delta’s existing block hours as a result of that connection carrier using the non-permitted aircraft, the aircraft is not flown on a city pair served by Delta and if that jet aircraft that was never certified to carry more than 106 and currently only seats 97 passengers or less. [PWA 1.D.2]
Okay, now, RAH. Permitted aircraft are 50 seat RJs and 255 51-76 seaters of which no more than 120 can be 71-76 seaters. That 120 number can increase with pre-merger DAL mainline fleet growth or decrease to 85 if the flow is cancelled. All of those 120 76 seaters can also have their seating capacity reduced to 70 seats if a pre-9/11 mainline pilot is furloughed. [PWA 1.B.40]
If, however, a Delta Connection carrier under a CPA* or RPA* flying permitted aircraft then acquires an aircraft that is not permitted then Delta will terminate such operations and will need to do so either by the date that non-permitted aircraft entered revenue service or 9 months from the date that Delta became aware of the potential acquisition, whichever comes later. [PWA 1.D.2.C]
However, a Delta Connection carrier on a CPA or RPA may fly both permitted and non-permitted aircraft if the non-permitted flying is not performed for Delta, there is no reduction in Delta’s existing block hours as a result of that connection carrier using the non-permitted aircraft, the aircraft is not flown on a city pair served by Delta and if that jet aircraft that was never certified to carry more than 106 and currently only seats 97 passengers or less. [PWA 1.D.2]
According to Check's definition he presented: A single transportation system exists when there is a substantial integration of operations, financial control, and labor and personnel functions and a substantial degree of overlapping ownership, senior management, and BOD’s. However, as in the US Airways case substantial integration of operations does not require total integration of operations.
How can you not say RAH's CHQ and Shuttle America who does flying for us under a CPA does not meet the definition of a STS? And therefore as a STS they're not allowed to operate the aircraft we permit in the PWA for DCI (their CHQ E145s and Shuttle E170/175s) because they have aircraft that are not permitted (99 seat E190s and 120-162 seat A318/319/320s) which do not qualify for any exemptions under the PWA 1.D, right?
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
*A capacity purchase agreement (CPA) is where Delta purchases all or a portion of a carriers capacity and is responsible for selling the seat inventory that they purchase. The revenue proration agreement (RPA) is where Delta earns a fixed dollar or percentage of revenues for tickets sold to passengers on connecting flight itineraries.
Delta has CPA’s with: ASA and Skywest which are both subsidiaries of Skywest. Chautauqua and Shuttle America which are both subsidiaries of RAH. Compass which is a subsidiary of TSA. And Pinnacle and Mesaba which are both subsidiaries of Pinnacle Airline Corp. Delta has a revenue proration agreement with some of Skywest’s flying and American Eagle for a few routes out of LAX.
Last edited by forgot to bid; 04-11-2011 at 02:36 AM.
Be careful what you wish for, Buzz. Every AE since I bid 73n NYC has added people... ON TOP OF ME! Who thought NY would be so popular?
The MD-88, sucks. Sucks in ATL the most. Sucks my seat the worst. Even Tiger Woods in his darkest days of sex rehab could think to himself - "at least I'm not an MD-88 FO in ATL!"
Any ideas what this Google thing will do to our ability to price our product?
Google bought ITA, a software company that deals in air fare tracking.
Government lets Google buy travel software company - Yahoo! News
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