Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-09-2011, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
FTB,
My "gut" feeling is the initial A-320 bid awards will be fairly junior, and that's typical. The reason is there are no bid packages to evaluate what the trips are, and what one's seniority could hold in terms of trips, days off, etc. So even though there will be a bunch considering the category, many will hold off until they have a better picture of what their individual quality of life would be like.
As far as five day trips...
I'm a south guy flying the A-320 in SLC. I live in base but I prefer the five day trips because it allows me to create a decent block of days-off every month. When the category first started in SLC there was a bunch of *itching (by DAL-S pilots) about how there were so many five day trips and so on... The result is many more three day trips, and more four day trips as well (but fewer five day trips).
For many folks the five-days are desirable.
My "gut" feeling is the initial A-320 bid awards will be fairly junior, and that's typical. The reason is there are no bid packages to evaluate what the trips are, and what one's seniority could hold in terms of trips, days off, etc. So even though there will be a bunch considering the category, many will hold off until they have a better picture of what their individual quality of life would be like.
As far as five day trips...
I'm a south guy flying the A-320 in SLC. I live in base but I prefer the five day trips because it allows me to create a decent block of days-off every month. When the category first started in SLC there was a bunch of *itching (by DAL-S pilots) about how there were so many five day trips and so on... The result is many more three day trips, and more four day trips as well (but fewer five day trips).
For many folks the five-days are desirable.
As to what happens here, it could go in so many directions. I couldn't begin to list what could happen given if commuters find out its a 5 day trip plane then they'll flock to it. There are anti-Airbus folks. DTW folks who may follow it here because they like the plane and the commute may be identical in effort. Guys bidding around the 88 who want or hope for more seniority on a plane with technology. Guys hoping they can go from the 88 to 320 and get better trips without going lower % wise on the other equipment. How many guys don't want to bid into the unknown?
Or what if you can hold it now, but not later, and what if later it turns out to be an awesome category?!?
With only 50 spots in a base who could tell?? It may go senior or it may not. It'll be fun to watch.
06-09-2011, 12:09 PM
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06-09-2011, 12:09 PM
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06-09-2011, 12:22 PM
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What is the earliest conversion date of this AE? I'm wondering for freeze purposes..thanks
06-09-2011, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Delta Air Lines Inc. will have to repay $175 million in loans tied to a long-ago bailout of Northwest Airlines because it is closing training centers for pilots and flight attendants in Minnesota, where Northwest was based.
Basically is this new debt or lingering debt. If it is lingering then I think it's a moot point.
06-09-2011, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Is that a loan that DAL had to pay back anyway, or is this associated with some type of steep penalty or fine??
Basically is this new debt or lingering debt. If it is lingering then I think it's a moot point.
Basically is this new debt or lingering debt. If it is lingering then I think it's a moot point.
Pat Hogan, a spokesman for the commission, which owns the airport, said Delta still is obligated by lease agreements to maintain a minimum of 360 departures a day, and the airline more than meets that with 480 now.
06-09-2011, 01:23 PM
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Speaking of SEA, does anyone have any sample trips for either airplane in SEA? I know it's a wait to get out that way, but just curious what kind of trips and what directions you fly out there.
06-09-2011, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
That is what is called big shiny jet syndrome. 
06-09-2011, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
The company's decision to move its training and technical workers out of Minnesota means it must pay off $175 million it owes the Metropolitan Airports Commission on a 1992 loan to help then-struggling Northwest. That debt agreement, revised after Delta acquired Northwest, required it to retain its Eagan training centers -- or repay the money.
Pat Hogan, a spokesman for the commission, which owns the airport, said Delta still is obligated by lease agreements to maintain a minimum of 360 departures a day, and the airline more than meets that with 480 now.
Pat Hogan, a spokesman for the commission, which owns the airport, said Delta still is obligated by lease agreements to maintain a minimum of 360 departures a day, and the airline more than meets that with 480 now.
2nd question, do we owe $175M if we don't keep BOTH the training center and > 360 departures? Because what's the incentive now to keep 360 departures? Other than of course, 480 makes $$$.
3rd question, just thought of it. Oh wait, let me revise the thread about the training centers.
06-09-2011, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
2 questions. What if DAL doesn't shut down the facility but moves excess simulators in there and rents space out for the other simulators? What if it is still called NATCO training?
2nd question, do we owe $175M if we don't keep BOTH the training center and > 360 departures? Because what's the incentive now to keep 360 departures? Other than of course, 480 makes $$$.
3rd question, just thought of it. Oh wait, let me revise the thread about the training centers.
2nd question, do we owe $175M if we don't keep BOTH the training center and > 360 departures? Because what's the incentive now to keep 360 departures? Other than of course, 480 makes $$$.
3rd question, just thought of it. Oh wait, let me revise the thread about the training centers.
The $175 M is money that we owed regardless. All that is happening now is that we have to repay it immediately as opposed to whenever it was originally due to be paid off. Not really that big of a deal for Delta, I'd imagine.
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