Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1017638)

If you do not like what you are getting from your Reps, force the issue. If that does not work recall them. Once recalled, put someone in that beleives what you do, and have them change the leaders of ALPA.

If you cannot get enough support for that sort of drive, it is, because the majority of the pilots in your base do not agree with the position.

The contract survey is not out yet, but will be by early fall. It is on about the same timeline that the survey was done for C2K.

Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1017657)

True, they(SWA) do RECENTLY. Historically this has NOT been the case as mentioned ad nauseum.

Why are you done with ALPA? You don't know the opener. For the last time DALPA doesn't either, contract surveys have not been filled out by the pilots yet.

If DALPA put out a "wish list"/opener, minimum standard publication/press release right now; there are MANY posters here (including me) that would be ****ed at DALPA for making statements on behalf of the pilot group without even asking the pilots what they want first!!

DALPA cannot and will not publish, advertise, release to the media a fictitious set of demands when they don't know what the real desires of the pilots are!

(On a personal note: I look forward to the survey, all you DPA'ers who think we need "SWA pay" are managing my expectations, I have much higher standards than that.)

The SWA rally cry is low-balling ourselves at this point. The last full Sec. 6 contract DAL signed (C2K)was a record breaker, 1996 sucked, 1991 was good, etc.

Relax, don't shoot before you've aimed....

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1017658)

So I don't know who you are, but you have convinced me that I don't want you running the show. Emotional rants will get me nothing.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1017860)

Yes, you're more comfortable with your lies and spin.

Carl

Originally Posted by Smokey23 (Post 1017736)

FYI, 11th yr SWA Captain here. I believe I'm pretty representative of an "average" (or more likely slightly below average) SWA pilot in terms of earnings & productivity. I commute to my base. I have small kids at home. I have a great life outside this job and very much enjoy all the days off I can get. IOW, I basically fly my line and try to improve it where I can through trip trading WITHOUT increasing total work days each month. I pick up very little (~6 extra work days total last year). My 2010 W2 showed $224,860 and I flew 761 hours....virtually all of it at straight pay. I mostly do one 3-day trip each week, or the occasional 4-day every now and then. They're usually not commutable. I shoot for an average of 100 TFP monthly throughout the year to hit our annual household income target. I have 4 weeks of vacation each year.

Best of luck with your negotiations.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1017831)

Happy Independence Day from Zuma Beach brothers!

Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1017854)

For the past two days when on Icrew and I go to see trip coverage and click on the rotation I keep getting "INVLD PAIR NBR". Anyone else getting the same?

Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1017854)

For the past two days when on Icrew and I go to see trip coverage and click on the rotation I keep getting "INVLD PAIR NBR". Anyone else getting the same?