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Pilot to pilot swap board is a completely different animal from open time on E-crew/I-crew. It will show up there if you put in for it to be a personal drop, after the next PCS run. It will appear as a qualified (Q) trip. Somebody can pick it up, but not trade for it.

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hoserpilot

11-07-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1081240)

See, this is what I'm getting at. Is it really wise to pee on your support, ala DALPA? I am more DPA than ALPA, thanks to conversations with others, but seriously, you are doing more to turn me off of DPA. I have to ask myself, Are all DPA supporters as angry and condescending as you? Do we have to toe the Spackler line, or can we be dissenting supporters? Will we be tolerated if we disagree with you, or will we be harangued as "closet ALPAites?"

I went through 3 union drives at a previous carrier. Our independent drive was destroyed by one person. This person was very vocal, just like carl. I can only hope that Tim can help tone down his voice. Carl, your message needs to be heard. Your delivery is questionable. Fix the delivery and you will have more people helping you spread the message. Keep up the same condescending attitude and you will drive people away.

Pineapple Guy

11-07-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 1081211)

DPA members as of today:

3856

and rising.:D

Yeah, that's really great news..:confused:

So, how many cards will it take before DPA feels confident to call an election? 50%+1? 55%?, 60%?

At the rate they've been accumulating them (and it's been fairly linear since they started reporting them back in January), they'll hit 55% 8 months after we've been in negotiations and just before the amendable date. Meaning, they can call for an election, and we can all take a two year hiatus from those pesky negotiations, while we have an internal representational struggle.

Great plan. :mad:

Pineapple Guy

11-07-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1081377)

I think Carl's delivery is perfect...:D

DAL 88 Driver

11-07-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1081377)

I honestly don't see what you're talking about. I'm sure some of it is that I agree with most of what Carl says. But I just don't see the "questionable delivery" you're talking about. What I do see is a lot of very good points, mostly backed up with facts, offered without apology. Sometimes the truth hurts. And after all the personal attacks I've seen levied against Carl, I can certainly see why he might not be inclined to put a lot of effort into sugarcoating his arguments.

Hoser, try to look at it as objectively as you can. If you do that, I think you'll see a heck of a lot more attacks on Carl than by Carl.

Boomer

11-07-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1081319)

You crack me up Boomer. You're going to keep reminding us of this joke until we give it the proper respect...aren't you! :D

Carl

Until respect is given or I make Captain. Whichever happens first. :cool:

capncrunch

11-07-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1081378)

Ahhh the fear card. Check.

shiznit

11-07-2011 02:28 PM

The length of PG's timetable may be a little long.

The idea that disrupting the entire negotiations process for an extended period of time in the middle of a critical Sect. 6 is correct.

If it doesn't worry you, that is a problem.
If you are not concerned about USAPA, SWAPA, APA, etc. problems with the Seham Law firm, that is a problem too.

iceman49

11-07-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 1080944)

Unless ALPA wants to revisit the seniority list, waste negotiating capital on getting rid of the hat, and some how get us leather jackets to wear, these folks aren't interested in anything ALPA has to say.

No capital was wasted on the hat issue, pilots just stopped wearing them and the company finally came to grips with the reality. Not sure about the jackets, I think it was along the same lines.

80ktsClamp

11-07-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1081430)

No capital was wasted on the hat issue, pilots just stopped wearing them and the company finally came to grips with the reality. Not sure about the jackets, I think it was along the same lines.

As someone on the outside during that time period.... ya'll looked ridiculous wearing those leather jackets. Those things look very unprofessional.

I think the hat should be optional in the summer uniform, though.

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