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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1024188)

Ferd,

I don't know. I suspect that it's because Hawaii is historically a very low yield market that was used primarily for dumping frequent flyer points and vacation consolidation. As I recall NWA had a base there that had seen signficant variability in flying.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see us get more flying. But I'd also rather not work for the "stupidest competitor" that gets everybodies yields down.

Understand. Just seems like we measure "load factors" as the primary statistic these days.

And you're right of course on the HNL base.

Oh, what happened to Quangzou in China? That was announced for spring as I recall. Seems we could be making a killing right now on China to HNL. (Sorry for the thread drift)

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Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1024194)

If you're referring to CAN, I believe we couldn't get commercially usable slots from the Chinese government. I think AMR ran into similar problems. The rumor I heard was the Chinese government wasn't too happy with the US Visa program and dished a little payback.

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1024198)

Interrrrrrrreeeeeessssssttttting:D. Thanks

I figured that was also why we weren't doing China to any beach spot.:(

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Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 1024031)

Hyrdofoil to Peterhof Palace in St. Petersburg, Russia. Somehow this was supposed to be of my wife, seated in the row behind. Senator, at this point in time, to the best of my reccolection, I have no explanation how this was cropped.

http://home.windstream.net/cjmatras/pax.jpg

I think what you meant to say was you have no idea how a woman so massively less attractive than your wife ended up spoiling what would have been a photogenic and memorable picture.

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Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1024169)

Under a prorate agreement, isn't it true that Delta doesn't get any money from a passengers ticket for flight segments flown by Alaska with a DL passenger? Delta only makes money for the flight segment flown on the Delta aircraft.

Seems like a powerful incentive to do the flying yourself, unless of course their isn't enough passenger volume to support a mainline aircraft.

I've never bought into that logic. It just reeks of smoke and mirrors. Maybe its valid on a ticket purchase only on said codeshare with zero connections, but anytime a connection is made, the two companies can divvy up the revenue however they want with the net effect being the exact same as if revenue was shared in the first place, because it is. So DL gets the feed and still gets the revenue; maybe not as much revenue, but overhead for the connection is almost zero, which is a manager's dream. Sell your logo across your network while someone else runs a pretend airline for you.

I'm not against the AK codeshare in its entirety. Some of it does strengthen our overall network with feed and routes we wouldn't otherwise be doing. But going 0-fer eight on hub to hub (LAX-SEA) is unacceptable. No excuse. Heck, going 0-fer 2 BOS-SEA is pretty weaksauce. 0-fer 22 to outsourced RJ's? Please. That clearly proves we could be doing some of that. We need to use them to augment the thin routes and banks, but once you reach a certain seat/frequency volume that clearly justifies a mainline aircraft (not to mention 70-76 seaters should be C12K mainline aircraft anyway) we need to start weening them off the benevolence of our global network and politely inform them that we will be doing at least a sizeable minority of that flying. Not to mention all that revenue we would be getting that we are supposedly losing because we "can't share it" even though we all know that's exactly what goes on.

Add in them growing (and possibly using that against us, hard, in a future SLI) because of the code share while we stagnate/shrink and it only makes it twice as unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1023997)

If RJ's are good for Delta pilots, I have a simple question, would we be hiring if we dumped all the 51-76 seaters tomorrow or took back LAX?

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1310909918

Still I ask ^^

Hey, FlyingViking....

How about you and I go sail up to LAX and take back some of the hub?

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...Fun/viking.jpg

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1024187)

I think what most LAX bubbas see, and believe, is that LAX can be had (similar to what Western had prior to the merger). We've squandered a lot of that Western presence. I'm not a marketing or route structure guy, just a line guy who sees a lot of untapped potential out here. If we're going to "own" NY and the Orient, we might as well "own" LA.

My feelings are that DL is just content with maintaining our dominance in SLC:), and LAX is to remain a focus city, just like MCO or BOS. If they want to seriously take a foothold in LAX, they must first reign in the RJs.

I just hope we won't spend millions build a brand new terminal like the one in BOS, and then give it to Alaska... Oh wait, aren't there renovation in T6 in LAX?:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 1024289)

Yeah, the terminal 6 renovation is fully underway. We also sexed up the ticket counter in 5 and "rumors are" a new ops and lounge renovation. One of the CAs I fly with is one of the last Western holdovers. According to him, the pilot lounge and ops offices haven't been touched since about 1975. We don't even get a cell signal or wireless in the lounge.