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It's equally disgusting that ALPA pilotslots aren't adequately supporting their own political action committee.

Standing by for the same weak rationalization.

Start trimming the ALPA National fat, & cutting unnecessary bloated allowances and maybe people will contribute to ALPA-PAC again.

tsquare

07-26-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1028927)

Reroute, you know why. People do not trust ALPA. ALPA-PAC does a great service for us, but the majority of our pilots cannot stand anything ALPA. We need to rectify that.

No... it has nothing to do with ALPA. Some of us do not believe in contributing to the corruption of elected officials. Sorry.. I know that is how business is done in DC, but I am not going to participate. Thank those of you that do.

acl65pilot

07-26-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1028949)

That may be true for you, but most of the pilots I talk to are not contributing because of Age 65, and as a result of that support by ALPA, they refuse to contribute.

Carl Spackler

07-26-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1028778)

I keep telling my Reps that as well. I keep harping on the fact that, in reality no one really is grasping how sick and tired our pilots are about the way things are going. There is a basic lack of trust of all parties involved. One misstep, and this powder keg will go up.

You are 100% correct.

Carl

Carl Spackler

07-26-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1028807)

I agree 100% but the problem is DPA is not ready to deliver. Timing is just too tight. I feel everyone at DPA is honest and committed to getting it done, but Management will only use DPA to divide our group.

If they thought DPA would divide us, management wouldn't have tried to chase them off the property as hard as they did in the ATL event. DPA would strongly unify this pilot group over the issue of Scope IMO. ALPA simply cannot do that by their own current structure. As long as we go into Section 6 with ALPA representing us, we will be a terribly divided group over the issue of Scope. Period.

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1028807)

Think of the power management will have when we threaten to strike and they know we have no strike fund?

The account balance we have now and will continue to amass belongs to Delta pilots...not ALPA. ALPA cannot take that money from Delta pilots if we were to vote in an in-house union.

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1028807)

My DPA card is in because the threat to ALPA to act is the best we can do until 1/1/2013...

Don't underestimate ALPA's ability to make another huge miscalculation and cause DPA cards to come flooding in.

Carl

Carl Spackler

07-26-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1028872)

Scoop,

I think there are many more Captain Cluelesses than you think. Its sad, but understandable (sort of): these guys do not want to ruffle any feathers and jeopardize their income and lifestyles so close to retirement. You see, they are at the top of the pyramid and they like it up there. Why ruin that?

TEN

I agree with you man, but please understand that ALPA is the main reason people like this exist! Imagine the minds that could be changed if there were constant fact-based letters from ALPA explaining exactly why Scope relaxation hurts EVERYONE. Why doesn't ALPA do this? They've written some beautiful fact-based documents lately hoping to "educate" us on the process, our contract history, etc. This is proof that they have it in them. They ARE capable of it. But they WILL NOT do this with regard to Scope. Why?

You cannot minimize the impact ALPA's failure to communicate on scope has on the creation and furtherance of these Captain Clueslesses. DPA is 100% clear on this issue. It is why DPA is happening in the first place. ALPA could kill DPA with a series of Scope education letters, but they won't...because they can't

Carl

Carl Spackler

07-26-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1028897)

It's equally disgusting that ALPA pilotslots aren't adequately supporting their own political action committee.

Standing by for the same weak rationalization.

Why would anyone support a PAC that is not even discussing the slot swap issue as a PAC consideration? Why would anyone support a PAC that walks away from the 1500 hour rule, and caves in on FT/DT?

The ALPA-PAC is all about electing far-left politicians. That's not an appropriate function of an Airline Pilot's union.

Carl

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