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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1037424)
But then they will say, if you send us back in there to renegotiate, it's the same as a no confidence vote to our MEC and the negotiators. And as such, we'll have to have new elections for all those positions. And you know how long THAT could take. Think of the "time value of money, hold your nose, and vote YES. We'll really get 'em next time."
Carl I don't remember ever seeing an entire opening position being made public. Tidbits are usually let out, but that's it. |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1037211)
Well Carl, let's talk about selective responses, jeez! If Manager had mentioned LEC 20 FPL resolutions in the post I would have discussed it.
Oddly, you chose not to mention him hopping on the "rumor express" either, WHICH IS WHAT THE REFERENCED POSTS WERE DISCUSSING!!! Grow up.
Originally Posted by TheManager
(Post 1036778)
Actions like that just keep the DPA snowball moving downhill. Its the intransigence on the FPL resolutions that get that snowball rolling as opposed to just moving.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1037429)
Tinfoil hat might be getting a bit itchy there, Carl.
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1037429)
I don't remember ever seeing an entire opening position being made public. Tidbits are usually let out, but that's it.
Carl |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1037438)
But TheManager did indeed mention it in his post. That's why I reposted it for you and bolded it. I'll do it again:
Since you didn't respond to that at all, I viewed you as selectively responding. If you didn't mean to do that, then I apologize for thinking you were selectively responding. Carl Apology accepted. In summation of everything Carl and Shiz say to each other: Carl: I want a better contract, ALPA can't get it done. Shiz: I want a better contract, DPA can't get it done. I just hope I can sling gear for you at least once after that dang fence comes down!!!(and I'm senior enough to bid it!:D) |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1037429)
Tinfoil hat might be getting a bit itchy there, Carl.
I don't remember ever seeing an entire opening position being made public. Tidbits are usually let out, but that's it. |
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 1037452)
Take a look at UCAL. It might not be the entire opener, but it's pretty detailed. No, we probably won't see the whole thing, but you can bet there will be enough "strategic leaks" to get a picture of what's going on. Neither side will want us to see the whole picture, unfortunately.
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Awesome resolutions passed in dtw, hopefully the mec takes it and realizes it's a serious issue.
7. No Scope Relief----That the Delta*MEC commits to not granting further scope relief, including in the upcoming contract negotiations. Passed It had better not get to them and there be "no action taken"!!!! |
Originally Posted by superpilot92
(Post 1037456)
awesome resolutions passed in dtw, hopefully the mec takes it and realizes it's a serious issue.
7. No scope relief----that the delta*mec commits to not granting further scope relief, including in the upcoming contract negotiations. passed it had better not get to them and there be "no action taken"!!!! |
The MEC might just make that policy. Pilots need to be SURE they make their wishes known in the contract survey.
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8am tomorrow....
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