Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1037051)

I bet we'll here "this is the TA we have reached with the company. Guys, I hate to tell you, but if you don't vote this in, it's not going to be good. It's not going to get better."

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1036797)

Every guy I've flown with that wear a ball cap are bald or almost there. No biggie.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1037060)

Gloopy,


I basically agree with everything you say but "demanding" is not really a strategy. I will play devils advocate here:

DALPA passionately argues 1-7 above.

The company says we can only give you 15% up front and 3% per year for 4 years.

DALPA says but we "demand" more. See 1-7 above.

The company repeats, we can only give you 15% up front and 3% per year
for 4 years.

RLA kicks in and the years roll by.

I repeat - I don't disagree with your reasoning - but we need more of a strategy than "demanding." I understand that you probably would not want to publicly lay out a proposed strategy on a public forum (Sun Tzu would not approve) but we all need to start about thinking about it.

Scoop

Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 1037076)

I keep a visor in my bag for those morning and evenings when I'm flying into the sun. Squinting my way onto final is not my idea of a good time.

Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1037075)

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1037106)

I'm still willing to make a 12% cut in published hourly wages if we're paid by the duty hour.

Or a TFP system.

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1037078)

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I was told by an LEC member up North to expect ONLY 15% TOTAL.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1037119)

Watch out for the old "Zero now, plus Zero every year for 4 years, and 15% at the end of 4 years - and in exchange we won't give any more planes to RAH"

Delta offered this in 2005, and ALPA accepted.

(The Comair branch of ALPA, supported by the legal and financial resources of ALPA Nat'l)