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grnbkrevenge 08-10-2011 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1036864)
With this new JV for MTO with AeroMexico I wonder if their contract is good at protecting outsourcing. Seems to me it opens the door to move a lot of maintenance down to Mexico. Cheaper than the US, and not as far to go as China. Did the maintenance guys vote in a union or go independent?

NWA. Check!
AFMA Strike. Check!
Chinese maintenance. Check!
It has all happened before it will all happen again.

gloopy 08-10-2011 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1036865)
I'm waiting until we get management's contract opener.

Wonder which opener will be worse.

NuGuy 08-10-2011 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1036866)
Record the calls, gather data, and file a grievance if there is a violation.


Ahhh, shhussssh! Don't mention the "G" word. The GRU will come by your house and glower at you until you agree to "take one for the team".

Nu

hockeypilot44 08-10-2011 03:24 PM

If Delta opens with a concessionary offer, I'm going to treat this job as a stepping stone to UPS, Fedex, or Southwest. There is no reason why ANYONE cannot expect us to get some sort of raise after everything we've been through.

gloopy 08-10-2011 03:25 PM

And yet some people are under the dellusional opinon that if we don't grieve something instantly, we forever give the right to ever grieve it (scope). If that logic were true, the police in the ATL metro area would never be able to enforce a single speeding ticket ever, because they don't ticket 99.9% of them 99.9% of the time.

newKnow 08-10-2011 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1036887)
And yet some people are under the dellusional opinon that if we don't grieve something instantly, we forever give the right to ever grieve it (scope). If that logic were true, the police in the ATL metro area would never be able to enforce a single speeding ticket ever, because they don't ticket 99.9% of them 99.9% of the time.

Writing speeding tickets is way different than interpreting ambiguous or disputed terms between party's in the world of contracts.

80ktsClamp 08-10-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1036886)
If Delta opens with a concessionary offer, I'm going to treat this job as a stepping stone to UPS, Fedex, or Southwest. There is no reason why ANYONE cannot expect us to get some sort of raise after everything we've been through.

The company is going to open with what they are going to open with. That's how the big boys play. Don't get your already wadded panties bunched up even more over whatever turd they will put out.

PilotFrog 08-10-2011 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1036907)
The company is going to open with what they are going to open with. That's how the big boys play. Don't get your already wadded panties bunched up even more over whatever turd they will put out.

I bet it will really throw everyone for a loop if they actually open with something decent. I'm not even going to try and describe something decent, but it would be funny.

80ktsClamp 08-10-2011 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1036917)
I bet it will really throw everyone for a loop if they actually open with something decent. I'm not even going to try and describe something decent, but it would be funny.

I would be pleasantly surprised. But I'm expecting the usual company excrement in the opener. Not like anyone has played this game before or anything. If you don't expect it, you haven't been in this industry for too long.

georgetg 08-10-2011 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1036864)
With this new JV for MTO with AeroMexico I wonder if their contract is good at protecting outsourcing. Seems to me it opens the door to move a lot of maintenance down to Mexico. Cheaper than the US, and not as far to go as China. Did the maintenance guys vote in a union or go independent?

Last year I had a Maddog with a big yellow sticker on the logbook:

Aircraft under warranty, overhauled by Aeromexico.

I'm guessing TechOps has their plate full and is concentrating on their major revenue centers like 75/76 overhaul...
AFAIK TechOps is a profit center.

Cheers
George


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