Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-27-2011 | 08:37 PM
The Brown Dot +1
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,775
Likes: 0
From: 777B
08-27-2011 | 08:54 PM
Back on TDY
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 12,487
Likes: 0
From: 747-400 Captain
08-27-2011 | 09:30 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,844
Likes: 0
From: 765-A
08-27-2011 | 09:34 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,844
Likes: 0
From: 765-A
08-27-2011 | 09:46 PM
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
B Scale "isn't fair" because it treats similarly situated pilots differently. Pilots flying the same equipment over the same routes are paid differently for the same work.
The preferred method is to pay according to the productivity of the aircraft. Everyone gets paid the same, then as they have the seniority to bid a more productive jet, they can.
ALPA's fear was that bigger airplanes would be parked in favor of smaller aircraft. Hence, put the smaller jets off the property and try to restrict their number.
There is a difference between "we want no scope erosion" and "we WANT to fly anything over 76 seats." I'm not sure ALPA has turned the corner and supports the idea of these jets coming to mainline.
The preferred method is to pay according to the productivity of the aircraft. Everyone gets paid the same, then as they have the seniority to bid a more productive jet, they can.
ALPA's fear was that bigger airplanes would be parked in favor of smaller aircraft. Hence, put the smaller jets off the property and try to restrict their number.
There is a difference between "we want no scope erosion" and "we WANT to fly anything over 76 seats." I'm not sure ALPA has turned the corner and supports the idea of these jets coming to mainline.
Technically, compared to our ops, DCI pay scales already are a B scale (C-D if you really want to call it like it is since we are now career B-scale equivalent).
I have no issue bringing all the DCI equipment on board at current-ish rates to get them on property. That at least kicks the camel out of the tent so we can fix the mess we started by letting that slobbering and spitting animal in here in the first place.
08-28-2011 | 04:44 AM
At home on the maddog!
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,874
Likes: 0
From: Retired (mandatory age 65)
That's what I'm remembering too, scambo. It was somewhere in that time period... definitely after I got here. I remember they made a big deal about the fact that the B-scale was finally gone. I wish I had saved all the ALPA stuff from back then, because I'm pretty sure they put that in writing somewhere.
08-28-2011 | 05:43 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,539
Likes: 0
That's what I'm remembering too, scambo. It was somewhere in that time period... definitely after I got here. I remember they made a big deal about the fact that the B-scale was finally gone. I wish I had saved all the ALPA stuff from back then, because I'm pretty sure they put that in writing somewhere.
Exactly when in 1998 would management have agreed to eliminate the B-scale?
Last edited by slowplay; 08-28-2011 at 06:06 AM.
08-28-2011 | 05:53 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,971
Likes: 0
From: Kickin’ Back
It went away with the '92 contract. There have been a few other payrates called a B-Scale (Delta Express come to mind) but the official contractual pre-merger Delta B-Scale ended in '92.
Denny
08-28-2011 | 06:00 AM
At home on the maddog!
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,874
Likes: 0
From: Retired (mandatory age 65)
... or maybe I just dreamed the whole thing up! 
08-28-2011 | 06:01 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,462
Likes: 0
I gotta agree with Slowplay on this one. As a 1988 hire I spent, almost exactly to the day, 4 years on the "official" B-Scale. I remember in my interviews being asked if I had a problem with it..... At the time of the interview I didn't because I was not on property.....
It went away with the '92 contract. There have been a few other payrates called a B-Scale (Delta Express come to mind) but the official contractual pre-merger Delta B-Scale ended in '92.
Denny
It went away with the '92 contract. There have been a few other payrates called a B-Scale (Delta Express come to mind) but the official contractual pre-merger Delta B-Scale ended in '92.
Denny
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
