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hockeypilot44 09-14-2011 02:11 PM

I have trips on my schedule next month. All uncommutable on one end or the other, but they are trips none the less. That has never happened to me before.

Wasatch Phantom 09-14-2011 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1054420)
Chuck;
Yes, the reps need to push harder, and they may, but for now the FPL committee is constantly presenting to the MEC, and eventually there will be a resolution to it. I want it too, but these guys are doing the best they can when they only discuss the issue once a quarter.

And that is simply unacceptable to me (and I suspect the majority of Delta pilots)...

scambo1 09-14-2011 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 1054450)
And that is simply unacceptable to me (and I suspect the majority of Delta pilots)...


Agreed, what's the BFD. Don't publish it and everyone thinks the worst. Publish it an let the chips fall where they may.


I dont think anyone believes FPL in and of itself is a bad thing. It is FPL abuse that is the bad thing.

Timbo 09-14-2011 02:31 PM

Many years ago up on BOS, I had a friend who was a LEC rep. up there, and he "never flew" yet he always had an 85 hr. line (or more). At the time, he was not a line holder, but he would bid some of the worst trips as (high time) move ups, like two awful 4 day trips crammed together, get it, get an 85hr. line then drop both trips for 5 days of "office work". My wife would see him in the local coffee shop and ask me, "Why are you always gone, and he's NEVER gone?? And YOU are Senior to HIM!" (by quite a bit).

So after I checked his schedule and saw what he was doing, I called him and asked him about it. I think I said something like, "How do you 'represent' me, if you stay home and get 85 hours a month, and never fly any (crappy) trips??!!"

His answer: "The trips I drop, you might get on a Green Slip, so it's a good thing for the pilot group!"

Yeah...but he never flys, so he feels no 'pain' and when it comes time to ask for MORE, I doubt if his heart is really in it!

rvr350 09-14-2011 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1054449)
I have trips on my schedule next month. All uncommutable on one end or the other, but they are trips none the less. That has never happened to me before.

You notice how fast they get the lines out this month?:rolleyes:

XtremeF150 09-14-2011 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1054355)
Only the first Duty period in that instance goes over guarantee, or is paid like a green slip. The rest(day two which I assume is a regular reserve day) is paid and credited as a normal reserve day.

So since this was a single day GS and I was only given 2 hours notice then I should expect the pay to go over guarentee then.

Next questions is who do I have to bother to correct this situation :)

PilotFrog 09-14-2011 03:17 PM

Weird, there was an X on NYC 7ER earlier, but couldn't get to the schedule, now there is no X

DAL 88 Driver 09-14-2011 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1054441)
IMO, stocks are a waste these days. Sector stocks generally move with each other. However, there are certainly winners and losers with sectors. Personally, I'm a 3xETF investor. When you invest with etf's, you see market manipulation for what it is. When you invest in stocks, you are just manipulated.

I have a different take on that. I use an investment method (Snider Method) that mostly uses individual stocks and options. I don't feel manipulated at all. In fact quite the opposite... Knowing that there is a real person on the other side of every transaction, I often marvel at how much they lose while I haven't lost (or been manipulated) on a single trade in 6 1/2 years.

I agree with you about ETF's, though. If I wasn't doing what I'm doing, I would be doing ETF's.

iaflyer 09-14-2011 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1054472)
So since this was a single day GS and I was only given 2 hours notice then I should expect the pay to go over guarentee then.

Next questions is who do I have to bother to correct this situation :)

If you look at your time card, what does it say on the right, about 2/3 of the way down next to this: RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY:
That's where your GS pay on reserve will show up.

You might have to wait until the trip is shown as "Closed" before the pay is correct, but only the first day will pay single pay above guarantee, the rest is straight credit towards guarantee.

Vikz09 09-14-2011 04:05 PM

Article in forbes says Virgin Atlantic is very close too announcing a alliance with the most likely scenerio of either United or Delta. For what its worth the so-called experts think it will be United.


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